Goliath

Mediancat,

Agreed.

But they are not omnipotent--you yourself admitted this.

I did not intend it as such. My apologies if you took it that way.

Well, you've admitted that you aren't making an argument. I'm honestly and legitimately confused as to why you bothered to write the OP in the first place.

Sincerely,

Goliath

Goliath

Amaranth,

I'm sorry you took it that way--I certainly didn't intend it to be that way. Proving The Riemann Hypothesis was the first thing that came to mind that would be practically impossible for the writers of Buffy to do.

And I will reply again, that this is nothing more than your uneducated opinion.

Then let's see it!

How so? If the analogy wasn't an attempt at an argument, then I honestly don't know why Mediancat wrote the OP.

Sincerely,

Goliath

Mediancat

I accept your apology re the snideness, but since I say an analogy isn't an argument and you say it is, I don't see any point to continuing this part.

As for the first half, what you seem to want is ACTUAL omnipotence, in our universe as well as the fictional one. For them to quickly solve the Riemann hypothesis would require real-world omnipotence, and nobody has that.

The creators of any fictional universe only have omnipotence when it comes to that universe -- their powers in regard to this one are strictly limited.

Rob aka Mediancat

Goliath

Mediancat,

No, I think I've said at least twice in this thread that an analogy does not make an argument. You've told me that you're not making an argument for anything, whence my confusion about why you wrote the OP at all.

Correct, hence the analogy fails.

Sincerely,

Goliath

The_Unknown_Banana

My input:
Cool analagy, it does seem to give insight into how christians et al can so easily dismiss evidence that seems critical to us non "fans".

Goliath, I think the writers are in fact omnipotent as far as the show is concerned. They don't need to work out the Riemann hypothesis, they could just as easily say that the answer to it is in fact "2" (even if it were irrelevant), and that would be how it was in the buffy universe.

But that is besides the point of the analagy.

Goliath

The_Unknown_Banana,

But they are not, in fact, omnipotent. That is the point that I was trying to make, and that is just one of many reasons why the analogy fails.

Sincerely,

Goliath

The_Unknown_Banana

Perhaps your idea of omnipotent is different to mine. They can define the buffy universe to be whatever they want it to be, that's omnipotent enough for me! lol.

But that doesn't make the analagy fail anyway, as it has no relevance to the idea the analagy is trying to convey.

Nowhere357

I agree, a good and useful analogy. It really helps to understand the other pov. Kudos to Mediancat.

Btw you brave Banana, welcome to the Internet Infidels. Did you find your way here because the Theology Web has been off-line?

WinAce

I actually recognized the parallel months ago when browsing a Star Trek fansite, which prompted me to compose...

There are No Contradictions in Star Trek

Goliath

The_Unknown_Banana,

A being is omnipotent if and only if there is nothing that said being cannot do.

I agree that the Buffy writers are omnipotent within the show. However, they are not, in general, omnipotent.

But it is relevant! The Buffy writers are being compared to the xian god. The xian god is allegedly omnipotent, and the Buffy writers are not. Therefore the analogy fails as an argument.

If you scroll up and read this thread, you'll see that this ground has been covered before. Mediancat was not even trying to argue for or against anything in his OP, which still leaves me completely confused as to why he wrote it.

Sincerely,

Goliath