inquisitive01

If you're one of those denied the gift of everlasting life, the gnashing of teeth would occur during the Second (final) Death. If it so happened that it was a fire that killed a person the first time around, then I suppose this person might experience this gnashing of teeth twice (unless the smoke killed the person before the fire got to him/her during the first death, which would not be the case in the Second Death).

What can I say? Some people seem to think the term "cursing" in the Bible refers simply to four-letter words. One can curse someone with a four-letter word (i.e., "I hope you die in your own s###"), but one can also curse someone by saying something as simple as "I hope you die soon." One can also attempt to put curses on someone, which would also be cursing. This would be a different thread, though, but I thought it would illustrate how different people seem to interpret things in the Bible differently.

As another example, some (Christians, atheists, etc.) even think that Jesus, the Son of God, is God Himself! Some Christians "pick and choose" whatever it is they think is relevant (likely "me-centered" thought) to their lives. Because of this, you have self-claimed Christians telling lies throughout the week, cheating on their spouses on Friday night, getting drunk on Saturday night (just using Friday and Saturday as examples), and attending church on Sunday. Why? I don't know. That's just the way it is here in this world I guess.

Gawen

Jeez RBAC. Even I think this is weak coming from you. What this seems to mean-that after the elderly Christian with bad teeth croaks and goes to heaven, he'll no longer gnash his teeth? Or that when he dies, he's dead and no longer gnashes his teeth?..which would be true nontheless.

Gawen

How very true, because we now see your POV and interpretations of the bible. Fascinating isn't it?...

Rational BAC

Well I didn't think it was all that weak. Rather a legitimate explanation of those supposedly 'horribly punishing" passages in the Bible concerning " the gnashing of teeth".

Big frigging deal, gnashing of teeth. If that is some sort of awful punishment, then you have not gnashed your teeth lately.

A little annoying ---yes. Reminds you that have turned into an old fart and should begin to consider your mortality---yes.

More than that---no.

Gawen

I will admit...you got me chuckling with that. But seriously...gnashing of the teeth for all eternity...maaan. Think of your cheek muscles.

inquisitive01

Okay. Since you now see my points of view, please list them. Not a partial list, but a complete one.

Was something wrong? Did you not agree that some self-claimed Christians continue to sin throughout the week and then attend church on Sunday as if the previous (acts during this) week never happened?

Rational BAC

I have always done that. I thought that was an intrinsic part of Christianity. Why so many people are drawn to it.

If you can't sin like crazy during the week and then get absolved of your sins on Sunday------what the hell good is Christianity anyway?

(that was meant light heartedly---I don't even believe in sin. I don't believe that sinning has anything at all to do with Christianity)

inquisitive01

What about repenting? Repenting on Sunday (I'm assuming, but might be wrong, that "absolved of sins" means "repenting" in your last post) and then continuing to sin during the week is nothing more than an attempt at deceit. What if you die sometime during Monday-Saturday (before Sunday)?
How can one be "absolved of sin" that has been committed AFTER one is "absolved?"

Sparrow

Your last seven words here seem to sum up this thread nicely.


How about Original Sin TM? Perhaps you should recant before God sends a hurricane to your door.

Gawen

But ya see inquisitive01, it's not the "continue to sin throughout the week and then attend church on Sunday as if the previous (acts during this) week never happened"part that I question. We all know many Christians do this.

It's the "self-claimed Christians" that I draw attention to. With the bible written so poorly and its interpretive abilities so vague, I believe Christians are ALL self-claimed.