FRDB Archives

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.


Go Back   FRDB Archives > Archives > IIDB ARCHIVE: 200X-2003, PD 2007 > IIDB Philosophical Forums (PRIOR TO JUN-2003)
Welcome, Peter Kirby.
You last visited: Today at 05:55 AM

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-15-2003, 09:52 AM   #11
Regular Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: california
Posts: 154
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Philosoft
I don't have a problem with many "higher being" concepts. Most of my friends and family believe in some kind of creator. It's the bone-headed religions, and dogmatic practices thereof, that develop around certain god-concepts that garner most of my ire. These bloated pseudo-moral life-controllers are most likely not the product of biological evolution, and are thus worthy of attack.

As for this forum, well, I just find the philosophical side of EoG terribly fascinating.
"not the product of biological evolution"? where did they come from then? maybe you were just joking.
thomaq is offline  
Old 05-15-2003, 10:10 AM   #12
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Southeast of disorder
Posts: 6,829
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by thomaq
"not the product of biological evolution"? where did they come from then? maybe you were just joking.
I don't think so. Presumably, there is no particular "god-belief gene" that acquires mutations and manifests as different religions.
Philosoft is offline  
Old 05-15-2003, 10:13 AM   #13
Regular Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: california
Posts: 154
Default

not a "god gene" but the desire for something "higher" or "transcendent" probably evolved. much like the desire for affection or things like that?
thomaq is offline  
Old 05-15-2003, 10:18 AM   #14
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Southeast of disorder
Posts: 6,829
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by thomaq
not a "god gene" but the desire for something "higher" or "transcendent" probably evolved. much like the desire for affection or things like that?
Fair enough. My point had more to do with the development of the individual religions themselves, but it doesn't really matter.
Philosoft is offline  
Old 05-15-2003, 10:23 AM   #15
Regular Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: california
Posts: 154
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Philosoft
I don't have a problem with many "higher being" concepts. Most of my friends and family believe in some kind of creator. It's the bone-headed religions, and dogmatic practices thereof, that develop around certain god-concepts that garner most of my ire. These bloated pseudo-moral life-controllers are most likely not the product of biological evolution, and are thus worthy of attack.

As for this forum, well, I just find the philosophical side of EoG terribly fascinating.
worthy of attack, sure. but why do it? why not let them go on in their religious irrational stupor and the rational people can focus on other stuff? is it maybe recreational?
thomaq is offline  
Old 05-15-2003, 12:18 PM   #16
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Southeast of disorder
Posts: 6,829
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by thomaq
worthy of attack, sure. but why do it? why not let them go on in their religious irrational stupor and the rational people can focus on other stuff? is it maybe recreational?
If everyone was capable of internalizing their personal theologies, there wouldn't be a problem. But many religions are notorious about giving people an inflated sense of self-righteousness, which makes people think they know what's best for the rest of society, in addition to themselves.
Philosoft is offline  
Old 05-15-2003, 12:21 PM   #17
Regular Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: california
Posts: 154
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Philosoft
If everyone was capable of internalizing their personal theologies, there wouldn't be a problem. But many religions are notorious about giving people an inflated sense of self-righteousness, which makes people think they know what's best for the rest of society, in addition to themselves.

right on, that makes sense.
thomaq is offline  
Old 05-15-2003, 12:26 PM   #18
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Southeast of disorder
Posts: 6,829
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by thomaq
right on, that makes sense.
Heh. I thought it might.

Let me just add that I think it is probably the vast majority of the religious public that normally don't seek to use their personal theologies as political leverage. I do, however, think religion lends itself easily to some often less-than-desirable sociological phenomena. In that case, a few clever and persuasive extremist individuals can have an inordinately widespread effect because the moderate public might be unwilling to openly contradict them, for whatever reasons.
Philosoft is offline  
Old 05-15-2003, 01:28 PM   #19
Regular Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: california
Posts: 154
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Philosoft
Heh. I thought it might.

Let me just add that I think it is probably the vast majority of the religious public that normally don't seek to use their personal theologies as political leverage. I do, however, think religion lends itself easily to some often less-than-desirable sociological phenomena. In that case, a few clever and persuasive extremist individuals can have an inordinately widespread effect because the moderate public might be unwilling to openly contradict them, for whatever reasons.
yep, i agree with that
thomaq is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:22 PM.

Top

This custom BB emulates vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.