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Infinity Lover · 01-31-2003, 03:05 PM

To alter a rescent poplyric (sk8ter boi) somewhat:

She is a girl, he is a boy.
Can I make it anymore obvious.
He's European, she's from the U.S.A.
What more can I say?

The two have come to the conclusion that they want to spend their life together, and they've agreed that he would be the one to move over to, and in with, her.

Now the scenario most likely to be executable, would be him gaining a "greencard" after marying her. Off course there's bound to be a whole lot of red tape to anticapate.

To make a long story short.

I'm trying to find out if anyone here has gone through a similar situation (or knows people who have). What does it take? What to expect?

Anything would be helpfull.

christ-on-a-stick · 01-31-2003, 04:01 PM

Well, the lyrics would flow more smoothly if you said...

He's European, she's from L.A.

Sorry... I know that's not exactly what you meant... but I have no experience/knowledge in the area.

I am sure others here will though! I think beastmaster has looked into this issue?

philechat · 01-31-2003, 04:22 PM

Look into the local US immigration offices if you could, and check this website for details. I think marriage to an American should be a valid reason for getting a green card, though I am a PR for another reason.

Infinity Lover · 01-31-2003, 04:39 PM

Yeah, Philechat. There's that movie Greencard on the issue. That kinda made me aware of how the imigration office could be extra cautious of possible abuse of that chanel. Which is why I'd expect some unavoidable red tape there.

Christ on a stick; thx for the headsup. Gee, I wonder what made you think she'd be from L.A.

01-31-2003, 04:41 PM

Here's a link that will be helpful if you haven't seen it

I think getting a green card would be very easy if you were married to an American, and citizenship is just a little more stringent.

christ-on-a-stick · 01-31-2003, 04:51 PM

Infinity,

My detective powers are awesome I guess.

Actually I lied; I do know a tiny bit about the process second hand.

My boss at the ESL school I used to work for married a Japanese woman. She was here on a Student Visa for about 7 years before they got married. After they got married and she applied for her green card, there was definitely some red tape involved - visits/interviews with the INS both in the INS office and at their home - at regular intervals (perhaps 6 months/1 year?) up 'til the 2 year mark.

While they said it was a little disconcerting essentially having to provide "proof" of it being the real deal (home obviously kept together, photos taken together and stuff like that), they said that since they were obviously on the up-and-up it was, in the final analysis, no big deal - more of a waste of time/hassle than anything else.

See, I did have something (albeit minor) to contribute instead of just being silly!

ju'iblex · 01-31-2003, 04:56 PM

Quote:

My boss at the ESL school I used to work for married a Japanese woman. She was here on a Student Visa for about 7 years before they got married. After they got married and she applied for her green card, there was definitely some red tape involved - visits/interviews with the INS both in the INS office and at their home - at regular intervals (perhaps 6 months/1 year?) up 'til the 2 year mark.

and you can be assured that red tape is going to be a hundred times thicker with the state of America right now...

beastmaster · 01-31-2003, 05:20 PM

What I've been told, based on several people's experiences, is to get married in Europe, not in the U.S. Apparently, that way you get your green card faster.

Here's what you do: get married in Europe, then ask for the visa/Green Card at the U.S. consulate in the European country, and then go to the states. I would check with the U.S. consulate in the Netherlands to find out how long it normally takes to get a green card after marriage if you apply at the consulate.

If you get married in the U.S. instead, it can take a lot longer -- even up to a year to get your green card. The INS backlog is huge in the States.

01-31-2003, 05:28 PM

Nah, I worked with a Jordanian named Osama (I shit you not) and a Turkish muslum named Nurettin during the WTC attacks all the way up to October 2002, I asked them numerous times if the government was on their backs more (they were both on student visas), and they said there was no change. We did have to change Osama's name tag to say "Sam" though. I'm not sure if there are the resources for more red tape other than more paper work.

The higher your education level the better, and being a Western European doesn't hurt at all.

Shout out to Nur where ever he is (because he definately isn't on II): Siktir git bodan oruspu!!! The Turks will never be a super power again, and Islam will not take over the world! Now get back to your philandering!

Ah thinking of Nur reminded me of a stupid pick up line. It's funny though.

Infinity Lover · 02-01-2003, 12:26 AM

bump

(Oh; and thx for the feedback sofar evrybody off course

)

01-31-2003, 03:05 PM	#1
Infinity Lover Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,047	Green Card. To alter a rescent poplyric (sk8ter boi) somewhat: She is a girl, he is a boy. Can I make it anymore obvious. He's European, she's from the U.S.A. What more can I say? The two have come to the conclusion that they want to spend their life together, and they've agreed that he would be the one to move over to, and in with, her. Now the scenario most likely to be executable, would be him gaining a "greencard" after marying her. Off course there's bound to be a whole lot of red tape to anticapate. To make a long story short. I'm trying to find out if anyone here has gone through a similar situation (or knows people who have). What does it take? What to expect? Anything would be helpfull.

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01-31-2003, 04:01 PM	#2
christ-on-a-stick Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 7,116	Well, the lyrics would flow more smoothly if you said... He's European, she's from L.A. Sorry... I know that's not exactly what you meant... but I have no experience/knowledge in the area. I am sure others here will though! I think beastmaster has looked into this issue?

01-31-2003, 04:22 PM	#3
philechat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mind of the Other Posts: 886	Look into the local US immigration offices if you could, and check this website for details. I think marriage to an American should be a valid reason for getting a green card, though I am a PR for another reason.

01-31-2003, 04:39 PM	#4
Infinity Lover Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,047	Yeah, Philechat. There's that movie Greencard on the issue. That kinda made me aware of how the imigration office could be extra cautious of possible abuse of that chanel. Which is why I'd expect some unavoidable red tape there. Christ on a stick; thx for the headsup. Gee, I wonder what made you think she'd be from L.A.

01-31-2003, 04:41 PM	#5
The Insomniac Guest Posts: n/a	Here's a link that will be helpful if you haven't seen it I think getting a green card would be very easy if you were married to an American, and citizenship is just a little more stringent.

01-31-2003, 04:51 PM	#6
christ-on-a-stick Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 7,116	Infinity, My detective powers are awesome I guess. Actually I lied; I do know a tiny bit about the process second hand. My boss at the ESL school I used to work for married a Japanese woman. She was here on a Student Visa for about 7 years before they got married. After they got married and she applied for her green card, there was definitely some red tape involved - visits/interviews with the INS both in the INS office and at their home - at regular intervals (perhaps 6 months/1 year?) up 'til the 2 year mark. While they said it was a little disconcerting essentially having to provide "proof" of it being the real deal (home obviously kept together, photos taken together and stuff like that), they said that since they were obviously on the up-and-up it was, in the final analysis, no big deal - more of a waste of time/hassle than anything else. See, I did have something (albeit minor) to contribute instead of just being silly!

01-31-2003, 05:20 PM	#8
beastmaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Madrid / I am a: Lifelong atheist Posts: 885	What I've been told, based on several people's experiences, is to get married in Europe, not in the U.S. Apparently, that way you get your green card faster. Here's what you do: get married in Europe, then ask for the visa/Green Card at the U.S. consulate in the European country, and then go to the states. I would check with the U.S. consulate in the Netherlands to find out how long it normally takes to get a green card after marriage if you apply at the consulate. If you get married in the U.S. instead, it can take a lot longer -- even up to a year to get your green card. The INS backlog is huge in the States.

01-31-2003, 05:28 PM	#9
The Insomniac Guest Posts: n/a	Nah, I worked with a Jordanian named Osama (I shit you not) and a Turkish muslum named Nurettin during the WTC attacks all the way up to October 2002, I asked them numerous times if the government was on their backs more (they were both on student visas), and they said there was no change. We did have to change Osama's name tag to say "Sam" though. I'm not sure if there are the resources for more red tape other than more paper work. The higher your education level the better, and being a Western European doesn't hurt at all. Shout out to Nur where ever he is (because he definately isn't on II): Siktir git bodan oruspu!!! The Turks will never be a super power again, and Islam will not take over the world! Now get back to your philandering! Ah thinking of Nur reminded me of a stupid pick up line. It's funny though.

02-01-2003, 12:26 AM	#10
Infinity Lover Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,047	bump (Oh; and thx for the feedback sofar evrybody off course )

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