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Grad Student Humanist · 02-12-2003, 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by atheist_in_foxhole
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but Jesse Ventura is NOT an atheist. He said on Tim Russert's show that he was a Christian and had accepted Jesus as his "personal savior."

That doesn't make sense. Is this a recent religious conversion, possibly due to his recurring health problems?

I mean, this is the same guy who called religion a crutch for the weak-minded!

02-12-2003, 06:21 AM

Take a look at the post under mine.

Grad Student Humanist · 02-12-2003, 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by atheist_in_foxhole
Take a look at the post under mine.

Well, based on the description of his response-- "with some hemming and hawing"-- I don't take it as a ringing endorsement of Xtianity or religion. Disappointing in any case. Probably just trying to deflect criticism. Also goes to show that it's impossible for a committed atheist to win and hold elected office in this country.

pz · 02-12-2003, 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by Grad Student Humanist
That doesn't make sense. Is this a recent religious conversion, possibly due to his recurring health problems?

I mean, this is the same guy who called religion a crutch for the weak-minded!

Sure, it makes sense. Other people's erroneous religious beliefs are a crutch. His beliefs are a sensible and well-thought out philosophy.

This is just more of the blithering crap we've been getting from this grandstanding, incompetent moron for the last couple of years.

Rusting Car Bumper · 02-12-2003, 08:14 AM

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Erk. As a resident of the state over which Ventura has cast his pall the past few years, I don't see what the good news is here. He's left us with a deep, deep deficit that's hurting us bad right now. He was an absolutely awful governor.

Almost every state has a deficit now given the economy. The same goes for many major cities. I don't see that as a fair criticism of any governor at this point in time.

DC

Grad Student Humanist · 02-12-2003, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by pz
This is just more of the blithering crap we've been getting from this grandstanding, incompetent moron for the last couple of years.

If his comment on Meet The Press is an accurate representation of his views then I have lost any respect I had for the man.

gilly54 · 02-12-2003, 05:55 PM

I was remembering his "religion is for the weak-minded" quote also in thinking him an atheist. He sure had me and alot of others fooled.

Well, if he has an atheist guest on I hope that guest makes him squirm by asking for a clarification on that quote....

openeyes · 02-12-2003, 06:15 PM

I did enjoy Jesse's willingness to question the value of religion, and assert that atheists are entitled to participate. BTW, one of his appointees to head a state agency was a regular at a "freethinkers" luncheon which I attend when I can.

That being said, he appears to be one of the most egotistical, self-centered people I know. I was glad he didn't seek re-election.

02-12-2003, 06:32 PM

Remember the little tantrum he threw after the Wellstone memorial? He acted like a three year old.

Shake · 02-17-2003, 12:13 PM

All I know is that I admired his not caving in to the NDOP, which he wouldn't endorse as governor.

The show should be interesting regardless of his personal faith, and I'll be interested to see it once it airs.

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02-12-2003, 06:21 AM	#12
atheist_in_foxhole Guest Posts: n/a	Take a look at the post under mine.

02-12-2003, 05:55 PM	#17
gilly54 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Almaden, California Posts: 917	I was remembering his "religion is for the weak-minded" quote also in thinking him an atheist. He sure had me and alot of others fooled. Well, if he has an atheist guest on I hope that guest makes him squirm by asking for a clarification on that quote....

02-12-2003, 06:15 PM	#18
openeyes Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,215	I did enjoy Jesse's willingness to question the value of religion, and assert that atheists are entitled to participate. BTW, one of his appointees to head a state agency was a regular at a "freethinkers" luncheon which I attend when I can. That being said, he appears to be one of the most egotistical, self-centered people I know. I was glad he didn't seek re-election.

02-12-2003, 06:32 PM	#19
atheist_in_foxhole Guest Posts: n/a	Remember the little tantrum he threw after the Wellstone memorial? He acted like a three year old.

02-17-2003, 12:13 PM	#20
Shake Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Folding@Home in upstate NY Posts: 14,394	All I know is that I admired his not caving in to the NDOP, which he wouldn't endorse as governor. The show should be interesting regardless of his personal faith, and I'll be interested to see it once it airs.

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