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Joseph Backs · 01-31-2003, 09:36 PM

Well Amie? By the way, that was the first time I have spelt your name correctly.

What matters to me is that you are all strapped in and ready to hit the world with a bomb of truth.

By the way, can you start with the progeny of the Russells?

J.B. :notworthy

Joseph Backs · 01-31-2003, 09:48 PM

... did I mention that I hate Bertrand Russell. Not because I've ever read anything the guy has written - except for his introduction to philosophical thought - which I loved.

Normally I wouldn't hate him, except I do. Because he loves to say there is no god, and he's not even good at saying that like you guys are good at it, for example.

So if you're not good at it, shut ya mouth. Like Bertrand Russell, for example. What I'm saying is that I would not normally kill anyone - I'm not capable of it, don't got the balls. But if Bertrand Russell was alive I would try my best to kill him, except he's not.

It's weird, someone must have killed him! I can't believe that he died of natural causes ... a moron like that. Wow!

Man, I love being a philosopher - look I'm brilliant!!! But seriously folks, Amie likes me and she's a god damned genius, and I like you Amie, why? Because you are a god damned genius.

Also, I enjoy the occasional ramblings of Infinity Lover. He makes me laugh arrogantly and stuck-upedly. I mean that in the nicest way.

P.S. I don't believe in god. P.S. I do believe in god. P.S. I don't believe in god.

I do believe in the Matrix, the thing we can't prove we do not exist within! Wow. We cannot not prove it. But that shouldn't be.

I love it. I also love you very much Philosoft.

That's all I wanted to say. I love everyone and I want it.

Now was that not clear enough? I will write an essay on this later, and I want to take some higher philosophy classes to ensure I know what I'm doing.

sincerely

J.Backs.

I don't care about your "believing" in God or your "opinions about the facts" either. I didn't ask you anything about your beliefs. I didn't even use the word "belief." I'm asking you, pursuant to your previous post wherein you claimed God's existence is an objective fact, to give me a description of the God whose existence has been henceforth established.

Amie · 01-31-2003, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by Joseph Backs
Aimie I know it's going to happen. You're going to be led into the death throes of a paradise-seeking fanatic one day, and when that day arrives don't say we didn't warn you.

one day I can picture all the infidels in my life standing there saying "They tried to tell us and we wouldn't listen"

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We are NOT attempting to unseat your authority here as the girl with the least interest in dissecting the bible.

Well I took the four part series of systematic theology years ago and honestly before that I took the bible much more literal than I do now...

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We need them to understand that Bertrand Russell is a hot dog humpin jerk-off with too many ear-wigs squirming around in his undersized right-hemisphere to be of any use even to charge the gasping pon of a sexually molested gerbil, or a head-through-the-windshield accident survivor.
And with so little to offer the world it's amazing he wasn't shipped off to planet-X or beaten to a pulp when at six he blubered his first philosophic rambling.

you hold him in high esteem eh?

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So bow down. Aimie you're great. don't stop replying to our posts. And get ready to strap some M16's to that exterior and jump out of an Apache over the desert grand to fulfill your highest destiny. Oh yeah.

How about we lose those M16's but I will be happy to jump with a parachute

I am actually teaching a skydiving class in 9 hours...

Joseph I know this is off topic but this thread has pretty much spiralled off into oblivion anyways so what the hell...I see that you have a distaste for Russell, but why? and what philosopher do you hold in high esteem? any of them?

(edited I see that you talked about Russell in your above post, we were just typing at the same time)
have any idea why Nietzshe had issues with women? just curious what that was all about...

Joseph Backs · 01-31-2003, 10:01 PM

Ok Amie:

1) Rene Descartes
2) Sextus Empircus as a close second
3) Osho in third
4) Hume
5) Plato

That's it. Those are actually the only five philosophers I have ever liked or respected in any way.

Thank you for going easy on me, you're the only one who actually likes me. I love everyone, including Philosoft, so there's a problem here that he and I need to sort out first.

But you and I can chat again - and thanks for the reply.

sincerely

J.B. (p.s who are your favorite philosophers?)

Joseph Backs · 01-31-2003, 10:02 PM

... that's the reason he didn't like women. He couldn't stand to accept that there was more out there than him and his peon brain.

Joseph Backs · 01-31-2003, 10:04 PM

I retract that this place is "miserable." I am very grateful to have a forum to express myself.

Besides that, I hate most philosophers and don't believe in god.

The End.

J.B.

Amie · 01-31-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by Joseph Backs
(p.s who are your favorite philosophers?)

well in all honesty I am not educated in philosophy. I took a philosophy class and a logic class (My friend teaches both) and those classes just did not make any sense at the time. I guess it just was not my forte, but I would like to learn more about philosophy.

If I had to choose a favorite it would be the only one I am familiar with, Socrates. I recall Socrates saying something to the effect that we have to destroy the illusion that we already comprehend the world perfectly and we must accept the fact and be honest with ourselves regarding our ignorance and by doing so we are taking important steps towards genuine knowledge by discovering some continuity in universal definitions of the concepts we have that govern our lives.

I always remembered that for some reason...

Wiploc · 01-31-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Radorth
In fact Paul specifically says that ignorant unbelievers will be judged and punished according to their own rules.

Anybody see anything wrong with that BTW?

Rad

It leads to all sorts of obvious injustices.

What if Hitler thought he was cool, and Mother Teresa thought she just wasn't good enough? (For the sake of this example, you have to assume Mother Teresa wasn't a Christian.)

What if people believed they were due seventy-seven virgins for blowing up the twin towers?

Suppose you saw two gullible dying people, and you told one he was going to heaven and the other he would burn forever in hell. What could possibly be fair about inflicting those results on them just because they believed your absurd stories?
crc

Amie · 02-01-2003, 01:00 AM

Hi Amergin
thanks for those posts. very thought provoking. I am sincere...

HelenM · 02-01-2003, 03:23 AM

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Originally posted by Radorth
The most famous and insightful Christian song ever written (by a flaming fundy) says God's grace relieved his every fear and guilty feeling, but we all know he was lying.

I don't think the nontheists here question whether Christians feel guilt and fear. They question whether those feelings are based on an accurate perception of reality. And they question whether the best way to resolve those feelings is through getting people to believe in what they think are fairytales.

What you tell people makes them feel good or bad if they believe it regardless of whether it is true or not. If you heard your wife was badly hurt in an accident then you'd be upset even if the information was completely wrong - unless you could establish it was wrong. But the moment you knew it was wrong you'd feel fine.

Feelings are based on beliefs. Feelings aren't 'lies' but the beliefs may not reflect reality. I think most people here want to believe what's true even though we may not all agree on what is true.

Helen

01-31-2003, 09:36 PM	#281
Joseph Backs Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 32	P.S. Amie Well Amie? By the way, that was the first time I have spelt your name correctly. What matters to me is that you are all strapped in and ready to hit the world with a bomb of truth. By the way, can you start with the progeny of the Russells? J.B. :notworthy

01-31-2003, 09:48 PM	#282
Joseph Backs Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 32	P.P.S. I Hate Bertrand Russell ... did I mention that I hate Bertrand Russell. Not because I've ever read anything the guy has written - except for his introduction to philosophical thought - which I loved. Normally I wouldn't hate him, except I do. Because he loves to say there is no god, and he's not even good at saying that like you guys are good at it, for example. So if you're not good at it, shut ya mouth. Like Bertrand Russell, for example. What I'm saying is that I would not normally kill anyone - I'm not capable of it, don't got the balls. But if Bertrand Russell was alive I would try my best to kill him, except he's not. It's weird, someone must have killed him! I can't believe that he died of natural causes ... a moron like that. Wow! Man, I love being a philosopher - look I'm brilliant!!! But seriously folks, Amie likes me and she's a god damned genius, and I like you Amie, why? Because you are a god damned genius. Also, I enjoy the occasional ramblings of Infinity Lover. He makes me laugh arrogantly and stuck-upedly. I mean that in the nicest way. P.S. I don't believe in god. P.S. I do believe in god. P.S. I don't believe in god. I do believe in the Matrix, the thing we can't prove we do not exist within! Wow. We cannot not prove it. But that shouldn't be. I love it. I also love you very much Philosoft. That's all I wanted to say. I love everyone and I want it. Now was that not clear enough? I will write an essay on this later, and I want to take some higher philosophy classes to ensure I know what I'm doing. sincerely J.Backs. I don't care about your "believing" in God or your "opinions about the facts" either. I didn't ask you anything about your beliefs. I didn't even use the word "belief." I'm asking you, pursuant to your previous post wherein you claimed God's existence is an objective fact, to give me a description of the God whose existence has been henceforth established.

01-31-2003, 10:01 PM	#284
Joseph Backs Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 32	a few of my favorite things Ok Amie: 1) Rene Descartes 2) Sextus Empircus as a close second 3) Osho in third 4) Hume 5) Plato That's it. Those are actually the only five philosophers I have ever liked or respected in any way. Thank you for going easy on me, you're the only one who actually likes me. I love everyone, including Philosoft, so there's a problem here that he and I need to sort out first. But you and I can chat again - and thanks for the reply. sincerely J.B. (p.s who are your favorite philosophers?)

01-31-2003, 10:02 PM	#285
Joseph Backs Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 32	Nietzche is a total moron ... that's the reason he didn't like women. He couldn't stand to accept that there was more out there than him and his peon brain.

01-31-2003, 10:04 PM	#286
Joseph Backs Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 32	In Conclusion I retract that this place is "miserable." I am very grateful to have a forum to express myself. Besides that, I hate most philosophers and don't believe in god. The End. J.B.

02-01-2003, 01:00 AM	#289
Amie Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York Posts: 1,626	Hi Amergin thanks for those posts. very thought provoking. I am sincere...

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