Liquidrage

It's a good link.
And clearly states that the evolution would not break the laws of Thermodynamics.

It meerly states that it would be very unlikely for a an amino acid to form.
Which is a better view though one for a separate debate.

But you need to look more clearly at what you believe.
Your own provided link contradicts your statements.

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NiGhT SpAwN

please read my last reply at the "email debate with night spawn" thread.

also to queenant, queenbee or whatever.lol
Please.....you clearly got proved wrong onthe miracles thread. First you call me a liar, then you gloat that I was wrong.....how immature is that. I clearly told you that I have plenty of evidence over here and you replied with something very immature and "dodge-like" so GROW UP....PEACE, I'M OUT*

also, thanks for the facts that you didn't list for me....PEACE*

RufusAtticus

I've read that thread and you've proved absolutely nothing. You feel that a miracle happen to you. It is an assertion with no actual evidence. I am not arguing with the evidence that you were hurt and got better. You've just posted your opinion on the cause. You've provided no objective, verifiable evidence, which would convince us that you got better specifically because of a miracle and not some unknown natural cause. You are still a student and need to learn that assertions are not persuasive.

If you are going to participate on this board in an honest and intellectual manner, you need to use evidence and logic. Assertions and denial just reveal how little you actually have.

-RvFvS

Jack the Bodiless

NiGhT SpAwN:

Evolution comprises (primarily) random mutation plus natural selection. Mutations have been observed, natural selection has been observed, therefore evolution is undeniably factual. Or are you seriously suggesting that scientists are lying about these observations?

There is no doubt that evolution is happening: this would be true even if the Genesis creation story was true (as God apparently neglected to install an anti-mutation filter). It is not possible to prove conclusively that evolution is the only mechanism at work, but there is no reason to assume that evolution is not sufficient. In the century-and-a-half since the publication of Darwin's Origin of Species, no contradictory evidence has ever been found, and all creationist claims that have been investigated have been shown to be false.

The most important fact, however, is that the Book of Genesis is false. Even if evolution were proved false tomorrow, creationism would STILL be false. The fossil record clearly shows how species developed, and it is not possible for the Flood to conveniently sort billions of fossils into the sequence of the evolutionary "tree of life".

Creationism has been disproved. It is a lie, and it will always be a lie.

Queen of Swords

Originally posted by NiGhT SpAwN:
<strong>I clearly told you that I have plenty of evidence over here and you replied with something very immature and "dodge-like" so GROW UP....PEACE, I'M OUT</strong>

For the record, Night Spawn claims that to see the evidence for his claims, it is necessary to "come over" to see it. I explained that I don't "come over" to strangers I encounter on the Internet. This did not make him a happy camper. Plus, he still has not produced any evidence for his claims on the previous thread.

abe smith

Why shd I do for you what you're too lazy to do for yourself, Nightspawn? If you really WANT answers, you can go to your local & borrow Ernst Mayr's two books: *This Is Biology* and *What Evolution Is* and read those. Why shd I waste my time doing what others {Mayr et al} have already done better? When you have read these & others, THEN come back here & start the discussion.

hezekiah jones

None of them has. Ever.

Orpheous99

This is classic theist's nonsense. In order to "see" their evidence you first MUST believe without question, but if you already do this then you don't have to "see" their evidence since you already believe that it is true.

Queen of Swords

I think even "believing without question" would carry less risk of my being raped, robbed or murdered than "coming over" to see some total stranger. I cannot believe the troll said that and expected anyone to take him seriously.

You Betcha

Mutations and natural selection do not prove evolution. They prove creation as undeniably factual.

Creation does not have a problem with animals changing through mutations and natural selection, but mutations and natural selection have never turned one kind of animal into another kind, and they do not increase information to form an eye or any other complex structure. Mutations are a loss of genetic information.

The fact is that the explanation for the origin of life and the universe by Creation is scientific and the one Evolution gives is not.

What repeatable experiment has been performed to show that life and matter can form naturally? Thanks.