Deathray 6

I just have a quick question.

I've read that many socialists, communists, and political scientists don't consider China, N. Korea, the former USSR & Eastern bloc, and so on to be true communist or socialist states and are rather dictatorships over the workers by a ruling class (Stalinism was the term, IIRC). Is this true?

PS: Please no replies from extremely anti-communist/socialist people (if they exist on this board), 'cause I don't want to risk getting an highly anti-red slanted response. Neutrals and pro-red people only need reply. Thanks.

Amen-Moses

Yes.

Pretty much the same way that there are no true capitalist societies either, neither extreme will work in practice.

Amen-Moses

Jat

In a true Communist country there is no central government nor leader. All are equal.

Socialism is a different matter. Canada has a Socialistic/Capitalist economic system.

Loren Pechtel

An observation on communism in China: I have a bunch of relatives over there. Two are members of the "communist" party. They are also avid investors in the stock market.

That says a lot to me about how communist the "communist" party is.

Note, also, that they were *NEVER* morally communist. It was simply the way to a better life.

Amen-Moses

Tony Blair is leader of the socialist party, sometimes labels are meaningless.

Amen-Moses

RED DAVE

It's true.

The Two Souls of Socialism

It's a little dated, but it conveys the idea.

RED DAVE