Vorkosigan

My impression was that she meant that Golan is a front, and the person who actually has ownership is someone else. Although your interpretation might be correct. She could be speaking morally or metaphorically or legally. Hadn't thought of that. That's what conversation beats thinking alone any day.

Is it meaningful that the inscription is on the back? I don't know. After all, the "authentic" portion is on the back. Sure wish I had a copy of the ossuary catalog everyone has been citing. Meyer's comments in the Bible interpretation article were very interesting. In fact, that site as a whole is filled with interesting articles and links. Did you see Philip Davies' article on minimalism and anti-semitism?

Vorkosigan

Toto

Apikorus mentioned having a copy of that catalogue from his university's library. Perhaps he will be checking in tomorrow.

I had noticed what a good site bibleinterp is, with a "breaking news" section and academic resources. It is hosted by a Wyoming community college(!). But I wonder why it doesn't show up when I google 'ossuary james jesus'?

Apikorus

I've got the Rahmani catalog right next to me. What do you want to know? (Keep in mind that this is a catalog only of the 897 IAA ossuaries.)

Toto

On the Jesus Mysteries List, Rochelle Altman was interested in no. 570, with the inscription "Shimi, son of Asiya, brother of Hanin", to compare it to the James inscription. I don't suppose you could scan that into your computer and post it here?

Vinnie

You probably hit the nail on the head with that one. The good faith is in more than just in scholarly discussionsfor me, however. When I step into a cab or on a citybus I express a bit of good faith in the driver. When I eat at a restaraunt I express a bit of good faith in their cleanliness and rotation of stock. I generally find that in my experiences I have to give people the benefit of the doubt day in and day out. Do you feel the same? Is it only scholars discussing things whom you are skeptical of?

A similar situation for me may be with televangelists. I am not fond of them and I do not assume they are acting in good faith in my head whereas I would assume most other people in everyday life are. I would like to see false-tv evangelists exposed so people can stop supporting them. I guess I would be happy if one was exposed so people were not misled anymore but I would be (and am) more sad at the fact that people do such things.

I think exposing false motives in this scenario is a good thing. Hopefully it would get people to think more for themselves and to not blindly accept what "a scholar" says. But I still don't see Witherinton being applicable to that ad homineme argument against mythicism though. It doesn't reach. To use it to show that evidence doesn't matter to some people as described above would work better. But I'll agree to disagree on this if you wil

Anyways, those were informative and interesting articles. Thanks for the links.

Vinnie

Apikorus

I don't have a scanner, but I might be able to do it at the office. I'll see what I can do.

Vorkosigan

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vinnie
Do you feel the same? Is it only scholars discussing things whom you are skeptical of?

No, only scholars in certain situations where they are heavily invested/paid for. For example, when I read an account of the geology of the basin of the Colorado River, I don't look for hidden agendas -- unless it is an Army Corps of Engineers assessment for a dam project! And of course, I expect that people around me are acting in good faith....but we all take steps to protect our things, right? I mean, I use my credit cards as little as possible, even though I doubt they'll be ripped off in the States (Here in Taiwan it is another matter).

not blindly accept what "a scholar" says. But I still don't see Witherinton being applicable to that ad homineme argument against mythicism though. It doesn't reach. To use it to show that evidence doesn't matter to some people as described above would work better. But I'll agree to disagree on this if you wil

No problem!

It's good to see you back here. I trust your recovery is going well?

Vorkosigan

Vinnie

I lock my door at night and it may be uncommon by credit cards do get ripped off over here too.

Full physical and psychological recovery complete. I couldn't imagine living with that initial fear and paranoia for my whole life and I have the deepest sympathy for people that do. I'm a lucky man and right now its humbling to reflect on where I was about this time last year.

Vorkosigan

Full physical and psychological recovery complete. I couldn't imagine living with that initial fear and paranoia for my whole life and I have the deepest sympathy for people that do. I'm a lucky man and right now its humbling to reflect on where I was about this time last year.

Great news!

godfry n. glad

Toto did ponder:

To Toto and Apikorus-

I have a copy of Rahmani's catalogue temporarily in my possession, and the photo of the ossuary, on Plate 81, is not particularly helpful. The photo is black and white, small, dark and grainy. Anyway, according to the data in the text portion, the inscription is lengthwise on the _lid_ of the ossuary, whereas the photo is of the lattice and florets decorated side of the ossuary. On page 200, the inscription is reproduced in the text describing the ossuary.

I have scanned both and posted a copyright permission request to the publisher, Israel Antiquities Authority, to post up scanned images of both pages on JesusMysteries. I'll let you know what I hear, when I hear it.

godfry n. glad