tdekeyser

Xianity was UNEASY about me 2000 years ago. You are uneasy about me just over words? Nothing to worry about widerness....

I'm mad, not a vigilante...

Hugo Holbling

I guess you just had a special birthday, then...

tdekeyser

Hey,

I expect a lot of friction on this thread, but someone has got to jump out there and take a position of a psycho Atheist, so I did.

Now in the hashing out differences, we may get to an understanding somewhere in the middle.

I am upset that my group is attacked by another faith. It does want me to defend myself, but I have not lost site of the value of individual people and I am not attacking anyONE particular except maybe Falwell.

wildernesse

One point for The Legendary HBQ for calling theists who agree with him "absurd". Thanks, you make a great ally too! Got any common ground with me, or will association just make you look silly?

Just a note that there have been about a billion threads about how fundies pick and choose just as much as liberal Christians what they believe and what they don't. Woohoo for cafeteria Christians. At least I get to eat my dessert first.

--tibac

wildernesse

You're hopping mad and trying to get people on attack based on the quotes you previously posted--and I can't even be uneasy? Give me a break.

--tibac

wildernesse

Yes, I am affected by current events. Yet I don't want Islam or Catholism or anything to be banned or destroyed--I want the fundies of all of those to stop being so dang foamy at the mouth. I also realize that they have the right to think and believe anyway they like as long as they aren't infringing on other people's rights.

I feel strongly that our president has done a LOT for big business polluters and the lunatic fringe of the Republican party. He's done very little for me as a theist. The church I attend is strongly against faith-based funding and believes that the government should get its nose out of the church. So there's about 700 people there who think he's wrong about that, just in Athens.

Go right ahead and become active--that's great. If you took "IGWT" off the money, I wouldn't give a hoot. It will still spend, won't it? And it will make neat keepsake--like wheat pennies.

--tibac

tdekeyser

Are the America Atheist that protest at peaceful xian gatherings intolerant?

Is Newdow intolerant to the pledge?

Was Dateline intolerant of Benny Hinn?

I agree with one idea posted earlier.....

If the 'nice' xians and theist would stop the right from making hateful remarks about all other groups, maybe people like ME will not have to do anything. I could enjoy my peace like seebs said...

But no one is doing ANYthing except Activist like Newdow and other freethinkers. And I'm gonna join them!!

wildernesse

People don't become Christians for the most part because they want the world to be a better place--they want themselves to be better, and they feel that Christianity makes them better.

On an individual basis, a lot of people are finding that Christianity is working for them (however they are expecting it to work).

--tibac

tdekeyser

I would have to disagree here. I have met LOTS of Xians and they are less 'blessed' than me. They are still scratching their heads on that one....

Obviously that faith is not 'working' for them otherwise they would not have to pray so much for things they want.

wildernesse

If American Atheists showed up outside St. James UMC on Sunday, protesting Christianity I would think that they are being ridiculous. Don't they have better things to do?

Having "Under God" in the pledge is a violation of C-SS. I have no problem having it taken out--and I'm glad that it's not mandatory. We always had kids sitting out of it at school for religious reasons. If it stigmatizes those people (and it probably helps to stigmatize them), then there isn't a good reason to have it.

Didn't see it.

Go look up the ACLU's website, that should show you what they're doing on behalf of all Americans. There are plenty of organizations and individuals out there that are working to make a difference in this country, please be one of them.

--tibac