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Mad Kally · 01-24-2003, 06:52 PM

uhhh Amie, I was talking to Sabine.

BYE

Amie · 01-24-2003, 06:56 PM

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uhhh Amie, I was talking to Sabine.

BYE

sorry, I need glasses. desperately.

Sabine Grant · 01-24-2003, 06:57 PM

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You know Kally if I had to believe only what I can percieve, there would be quite a few concepts I would have to state cannot exist.... ever tried to describe the infinitly small or infinitly big?

Maybe the human mind cannot describe God....

Amie... I believe she was responding to my last sentence leaving out the introduction which then also leaves out the most important part of what I was expressing. You were challenged to " describe God". My argument was that if we cannot describe the infinitly small or big, one may expect some limitations to the human brain describing the physical aspect of God. Oh well...

Amie · 01-24-2003, 06:57 PM

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Aren't you the one wondering why people can't live and let live?

what does that have to do with my statement of not having to justify reasons for participating on this forum?

Aerion · 01-24-2003, 07:02 PM

Hello, Amie!

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I was recently told that in order to fully answer the question of "what would you require to have a God belief", one would have to be able to define God in order to have that belief. however wouldn't one have to define God in some way to *not* believe?
It seems to me in order to *not* believe in God it must take some level of definition and understanding of what it is you *don't* believe in otherwise your position would be neutral (not a belief, not a non belief)

Like you, I was raised in the Catholic Church so I think we can safely assume you and I have the same definition of God. But others are correct when they say many people have different definitions of God. One atheist once told me his brother was a minister. He said he often debated the existance of God with his brother and that his brother would just keep generalizing the definition of God until God was basically synonimous with the Universe and that anyone would have agree it existed.

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I believe in God based on my faith. I know that atheists tend to not believe because you have no reasons to and because there is no evidence to support a God belief.
Got me thinking. What would you require to have a God belief? I am thinking it would be a subjective experience for you. However this leads to my next question.

Actually, I find the entire concept of God to be as ridiculous as the idea of Santa Claus or the Greek Gods. The entire idea of God just feels wrong on every level. I could give you hundreds of arguments of why but to me it seems so self evident that if I have to stop and explain it then we'd never agree.

Sabine Grant · 01-24-2003, 07:03 PM

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what does that have to do with my statement of not having to justify reasons for participating on this forum?

IMO nothing whatsoever.. you posted a very sincere question in your Op and overall got some interesting answers. Sometime people say things for the fun of getting the last word. Of course face to face it would be a bit different.... cyber communication is not always productive.

Novowels · 01-24-2003, 07:08 PM

If you wish to not talk about the subject, why the hell would you start or participate in topics about that subject? Just to waste everyones time? To stir things up? I honestly cannot comprehend it.

When you start a debate, and then attempt to "take your toys and go home" everytime you start to lose, you reveal your true colors.

DNFTT, people.

Amie · 01-24-2003, 07:11 PM

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If you wish to not talk about the subject, why the hell would you start or participate in topics about that subject? Just to waste everyones time? To stir things up? I honestly cannot comprehend it.

When you start a debate, and then attempt to "take your toys and go home" everytime you start to lose, you reveal your true colors.

DNFTT, people.

please show me where I have said I do not want to talk about the subject!?
I am not going to get into another atheist vs. theist pissing contest, this is silly.

Amie · 01-24-2003, 07:16 PM

Hi Aerion

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Actually, I find the entire concept of God to be as ridiculous as the idea of Santa Claus or the Greek Gods. The entire idea of God just feels wrong on every level. I could give you hundreds of arguments of why but to me it seems so self evident that if I have to stop and explain it then we'd never agree.

First you say no God, now you say No Santa! damn you Aerion!!!

whats this world coming to?!

in all seriousness I do agree that the definitions of God are abundant. If I had no concept of God and then I asked 30 different people about what God was, I would be confused to say the least.

Amie · 01-24-2003, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Sabine Grant
IMO nothing whatsoever.. you posted a very sincere question in your Op and overall got some interesting answers. Sometime people say things for the fun of getting the last word. Of course face to face it would be a bit different.... cyber communication is not always productive.

Hi Sabine

yeah I am glad i got the answers I did, I may not agree with some but that is ok I feel it is a good thing to get different perspectives on the subject...
you are right. not always productive
much love
Amie~

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01-24-2003, 06:52 PM	#181
Mad Kally Banned Join Date: May 2001 Location: LALA Land in California Posts: 3,764	uhhh Amie, I was talking to Sabine. BYE

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Novowels Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,658	If you wish to not talk about the subject, why the hell would you start or participate in topics about that subject? Just to waste everyones time? To stir things up? I honestly cannot comprehend it. When you start a debate, and then attempt to "take your toys and go home" everytime you start to lose, you reveal your true colors. DNFTT, people.

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