emotional

I gave the links for informational purposes only, knowing full well it wouldn't change anyone's opinion. Ridicule is the only thing I expected, and once again, I was right.

Amaranth

If I point out that the guy is not only basing the few of his arguments I've read on logical fallacies, but also that he has an apparent disposition for poisoning the well, I'm ridiculing you? Please, stop being so bloody sensitive and defensive. There are *many* worse things I could have written as critique of this fellow. Futhermore, I don't recall reflecting any failure on his part back on you.

Again: Would you please point me towards a source that supports your beliefs without resorting to obviously faulty logic.

Amaranth

SimplyAtheistic

How can you not believe that consciousness is something the brain is directly responsible for? When you severely damage the brain you can lose consciousness, so am I to believe that the brain isnt responsible for it? When you think or ponder something, it is nothing more than neurons firing in a certain way. So, now that we realize the brain is the origin of consciousness, is it hard to believe that it evolved from the most simple organism? If you believe in evolution, you should have no problem with consciousness arising from simple matter. Please explain to me what you don't understand. There was no magic, it was a slow process that is very plausible. Now, as far as calling Christianity a cult, what is wrong with this? How is Christianity less a cult that the ones made famous by tv? It brain - washes its believers into following its rules and donating to the cause, and it asks them to become followers for life, it also has asked them to die in its name. So..... how isn't it a cult? Just because its popular doesent mean its anything different. Ok ok, its a "popular cult". Happy? Oh wait, I suppose you are going to ignore me now too just because I pointed out some facts.
Jake

emotional

I have enough insecurity about those things as it is, and a critique only makes me more insecure.

I don't know. Maybe the other links. I usually do Google searches to find the evidence I need.

Ronin

You should see good old Yahweh on a bad day!

Yes.

But He only uses them on unbelievers.

Yahweh is All-loving and All-fluffy, despite your views.

SimplyAtheistic

If you have that much insecurity, maybe you should take a hint and realize your views are probably flawed. And just because you are insecure doesen't mean we can't disprove the arguments you willingly bring to the board. If you are so insecure, dont even come to these boards.
Jake

tribalbeeyatch

[emphasis added] If you all will forgive the tangent...This is the third or so time that I've recently seen a reference to the "six senses" on IIDB. What are the six? I've always heard that we have five, although I recognize that as being a somewhat arbitrary categorization.

emotional

No. I can't accept that. Going back to unbelief in life after death is something I can't do, no matter the price.

Your advice is sound, and I'll try to put it into practice. A bit difficult, considering that I have no friends in real life, but I'll try.

Tercel

"When you hit a radio with a hammer it stops working, therefore there is no such thing as intangible 'radio-waves'"
Like the analogy, the evidence of apparent loss of consciousness proves nothing.

A nice statement of faith.

It puzzles me why you think consciousness can be explaned in terms of non-consciousness. Consider consciousness itself: A living awareness, the very essence of perception. Consider a mechanistic view of matter: Non-conscious particles move in accordance with set rules and interact in the same way a cog turns the cog next to it.
They don't fit together. If you create a complicated machine, you get a complicated machine. What you don't get is the substance itself magically transforming from something that isn't aware, that doesn't have any relation to a perception whatsoever, into something that is.

Of course, this is entirely beside the point, whatever issues or otherwise I have with consciousness and a God solving them are only a "bonus" solution, as I mentioned earlier.

beyelzu

I SWEAR THAT YAHWEH IS ALLLOVING AND ALLFLUFFY JUST GET THE BASTARD TO QUIT BITING ME.


ah another convert. those teeth really do the trick, ronin.