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Old 06-23-2003, 08:23 PM   #21
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Maybe their plot is thus: In evolution debates, they keep getting beaten by silly things like radiometric dating...so they will remake the atom. Atoms don't emit particles or radiation, silly! This is just the first step towards inventing their own version of the entirety of science? I truly don't understand these people. Anyone can do experiments that demonstrate evidence for current theory in physics. What do these people do after witnessing an experiment?

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Maybe their plot is thus: In evolution debates, they keep getting beaten by silly things like radiometric dating...so they will remake the atom.
I imagine that there are two other reasons as well:

1) Lightning is mentioned in the KJV in several places. Therefore, electricity is "Biblically sanctioned." So, remake the atom so that only electrical forces (and thus magnetism) are required.

Funny that they can't abide wave/particle duality, but electrical/magnetic duality doesn't merit criticism.

2) Isaac Newton was a fundamentalist Christian who spent (read: wasted) years analyzing the KJV for numerical patterns,; incidentally also dabbled in alchemy. Einstein was a pantheist/atheist (in the latter part of his life at least) who referred to God as the set of natural laws that govern the universe and no more. Clearly, Einstein's physics have got to go, and all advances in physics since Einstein (better make that Planck to be safe, lest another Einstein arise) erased, so that the classical, predictable cause/effect clockwork universe of Newton can be pretended to be valid again.

(Shh... don't tell them: Newton secretly disbelieved in the Trinity.. ironic for a fellow of Trinity College.) He carried that to his grave.

Of course, they still won't be able to explain how a photocell works (why won't strong red light cause current in certain photoelectric materials, but weak blue light will, for example) or electron diffraction mapping of crystals, or how the holes in PnP junctions can move just like the electrons can, how electrons can cross "impossible" potential barriers, the "ultraviolet catastrophe," why you can't hold a nucleus together without neutrons yet they are electrically neutral, why you can send a single photon through a slit at a time and still get an interference pattern, Cerenkov radiation, or a thousand other things, but such things happen when your textbook hasn't had a second edition edit with corrections in three thousand years, I guess.
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Perhaps you could be of help and tell me how antirealists or even social constructivists deal with those questions?
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I think you would be better advised to not comment on situations you know nothing about. I have done the work and spoken at length on these subjects with Joel in private correspondence. I'm glad you found the time to insult me all the same and i wish you well in any further attempts to belittle me.
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