Mageth

Yeah, in that case, I'm covered too. So let the party begin! How many of the Ten Commandments can I violate today?

(Now either little agrees with us or posts something along the lines of "You must not have ever really repented/accepted the "gift" - i.e. attaches some more strings).

Postcard73

Another saved atheist here. This is really nice: all the salvation and none of the guilt.

Jedi Mind Trick

Well the “party�? began before birth and the “party�? really doesn’t end until death –we sin because were sinners were not sinners because we sin-. I’m sure that I have broken all 10 today myself in as much as if I break one I’ve offended all. Oh… There are many more than ten and your bound to break one. If you have ever placed simple trust in Christ you are his -no doubt about it- and should you choose to “party�? you will remain his. However, he will deal with his children in loving discipline as any good Father would and if you do not experience his discipline in your life then you probably never simply trusted in Jesus’ merit but in your own ability and therefore gave up.

Faith and repentance are two different things, Faith is for salvation or birth into the family. Repentance is for fellowship with the Father or a family code of conduct to maintain growth and health but not salvation.


So another single word for Christianity is:

Family

Light

How about the Unwritten Commandment?

"Thou shalt NOT be evil, nor shalt thou worship satan."

Mageth

Originally posted by little
Well the “party�? began before birth and the “party�? really doesn’t end until death

You sure took my little comment meant in jest and ran with it...

–we sin because were sinners were not sinners because we sin-.

So even if we never sinned, we'd still be sinners???

I’m sure that I have broken all 10 today myself in as much as if I break one I’ve offended all.

Yeah, that God fellow is mighty strict and intolerant. If you steal a pack of gum from a store you are also guilty of murdering the clerk. If you look at your neighbor's wife while she's washing the car you are also guilty of committing adultery with her.

Oh… There are many more than ten and your bound to break one.

Break one, guilty of all, eh? Say "goddammit", and it's off with your head, you murderer! Sheesh, what a tyrant.

If you have ever placed simple trust in Christ you are his -no doubt about it- and should you choose to “party�? you will remain his.

Kewl. I'm in!

However, he will deal with his children in loving discipline as any good Father would...

Those strings on that "gift" just keep a-comin'.

...and if you do not experience his discipline in your life then you probably never simply trusted in Jesus’ merit but in your own ability and therefore gave up.

So instead of one or the other of my two possibilities (either you agree with us or post something along the lines of "You must not have ever really repented/accepted the "gift"), you go for both. Hedging your bets, eh?

Faith and repentance are two different things,

Yup. Never said they weren't. But you could hardly repent if you first didn't have some faith.

Faith is for salvation or birth into the family. Repentance is for fellowship with the Father or a family code of conduct to maintain growth and health but not salvation.

'Kay. I had, or did, both, BTW. So I guess I'm "in".

So another single word for Christianity is:

Family

A claim fairly well contradicted by Jesus' immortal words:

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple�? (Luke 14:26)

So if true, "family" means something different to you than it does to me.

Jedi Mind Trick

Oh… One thing more,
“Turn or Burn�? perceived as an unloving proposition?
Only if it is a mere threat rather than a warning.



Which of the following is least cruel?

There is a plot to burn your house down -with you in it- while you are asleep and your friend knows about it.
Your friend chooses to:
A) Chooses not to tell you about it because he/she wants to marry your spouse after your dead.
B) Chooses to tell you of the plot out of sincere concern for your safety.
C) Chooses not to tell you because he/she didn’t really like you anyway.
D) Chooses not to tell you because you wouldn’t believe it anyway.

Most rational people would choose B would they not?
Ah… But the danger is only perceived by faith; you must trust the words of your friend.

So Christianity is also:

Rescue

Mageth

I'm safe under that commandment as well. No worries here.

Mageth

Originally posted by little
Oh… One thing more,
“Turn or Burn�? perceived as an unloving proposition?
Only if the it is a mere threat rather than a warning.

It's a threat and a warning, is it not? "Turn or you'll go to the place I've prepared for sinners like you."

Which of the following is least cruel?

There is a plot to burn your house down -with you in it- while you are asleep and your friend knows about it.
Your friend chooses to:
A) Chooses not to tell you about it because he/she wants to marry your spouse after your dead.
B) Chooses to tell you of the plot out of sincere concern for your safety.
C) Chooses not to tell you because he/she didn’t really like you anyway.
D) Chooses not to tell you because you wouldn’t believe it anyway.

Most rational people would choose B would they not?
Ah… But the danger is only perceived by faith; you must trust the words of your friend.

To make this inept analogy work at all, though, the "friend" would have to be the one setting the fire. "I'm burning your house down; get out or die!"

So Christianity is also:

Rescue

Yup. God sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself.

Rational BAC

Seems like no atheists are contributing here. Don't know why really. You can give very nice one word definitions of atheism if you want to.

What is it then? Just can't think of one word niceisms for atheism?

If you don't try a little bit harder I will have to come with some more negative one word definitions for atheism. ----------just to keep a little bit of fairness here.

Mageth

Originally posted by Rational BAC
Seems like no atheists are contributing here. Don't know why really. You can give very nice one word definitions of atheism if you want to.

I did in an earlier post. "Reality".

What is it then? Just can't think of one word niceisms for atheism?

Obviously, I can.

If you don't try a little bit harder I will have to come with some more negative one word definitions for atheism. ----------just to keep a little bit of fairness here.

The problem with doing so for "atheism" is that all atheism implies is lack of belief in god(s) (if weak atheism) or belief that there are no god(s) (if strong atheism).

Thus, most of the negatives you come up with will probably be more applicable to other "isms" that may be associated with atheism by some, as in the comment I gave above that what the poster was posing ("Hopelessness") was perhaps a one-word definition for "nihilism", but not atheism.

For example, your "paranoia" and "constipation" don't apply to atheism at all in my book. I can't think of anything less paranoid than atheism. I have no idea what "constipation" is supposed to mean - I'm not often constipated.

That leaves "myopia". I can see where you're going with that in implying that the atheist can't see what is plainly there to you, but then I could just as well equate "myopia" with Christianity, as Christians can't see the godless reality, or see gods where there are none, because of their blurred eyesight.