Ed

It is his moral nature.

Starboy

What is his moral nature? Or are not able to explain your morals?

Starboy

Ed

Hello bree. I am terribly sorry that you were a victim of rape. But nevertheless I think my analogy is valid and there are many things said on this website that are very offensive to me and yet I generally ignore them. I know it may be hard for you to do but sometimes it is necessary to overlook the offensive stuff to understand where someone is coming from. If this man was the best christian you ever met, I am afraid you have lived a very isolated life. Most devout christians are some of the most kind people you would ever meet and not hurt a flea. This man obviously has some very serious spiritual and psychological problems and probably belongs in jail. In fact if he wanted to truly follow Christ he needs to turn himself in and face his temporal punishment. He will also be punished in the next world (you may not know this, but there are different levels of heaven and a christians actions impact what level he will be in, even though his sin is forgiven as far as going to hell). And God wants us to face the consequences of our actions in this world also, even prison or capital punishment.

NOGO

How about a proper reference or an answer.
You seem to be on the defensive one this one.

I have searched Rants and Raves and the word Amalek appears only twice neither of which has you involved. I conclude that you have never dealt with this issue at all.

What is different about the Amalek case is that the Bible states the reason for the massacre. We do not need to speculate as believers often do to whitewash the issue. The reason the Bible gives is an attack which took place 400 years before as the Israelites were coming out of Egypt.

The obvious conclusion is that this is part of the moral character of Yahweh which you are defending.

I understand why you wish to avoid this issue.

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Starboy

Ed, if you can't explain your morals how do you know you actually have any and how can you expect anyone to believe you?

Starboy

galiel

Can you substantiate this claim? I challenge it without hesitation, and expand it to include devout Jews and Muslims as well. I do not have sufficient experience or statistical information about other devout theists, but I would not be surprised if your claim is suspect in those cases as well.

Ed

Dictionary definition: "Character: moral fiber." His moral nature is similar to the human conscience.

Starboy

Ed, this is not much of an explanation. I don’t think you know what your morals are. You are going to have to do better than this. If you can’t explain your own morals then what right do you have to criticize others for their supposed lack of morals? Especially when it appears that you lack them yourself!

Starboy

Ed

They are practical atheists since all atheistic moralities are subjective in nature, ie personal preference, therefore if one chooses to rape, atheists have not rational basis for condemning their behavior. And yes, my statement applies to pedophile priests.

Starboy

It is facinating that you feel you can comment on morals when you are incapable of describing your own in an clear and concise fashion. It would appear that being a chrisitian means never having to know what you are talking about.

Starboy