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Old 06-12-2003, 10:26 AM   #91
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Read Terry Pratchett's "Good Omens". You will immediately realize why the Anti-christ will be so much more popular .

Read it!! Well worth the money.
I couldn't agree more. But it should be pointed out that Good Omens was co-authored by Neil Gaiman who is a very dark and funny writer. His books "American Gods" & "Neverwhere" are great fun.
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Sorry Magus,but this God/Heaven/Hell business is retarted with a capital R.
There has to be something better you can waste your life obsessing about.


Oh yeah?! Well you'll be sorry when Captain Hook has you chained to a rock in the mermaids lagoon!!

No….wait, I mean…

Oh yeah?! Well you'll be sorry when the flying monkeys pull out all your straw….mmmm, no, that's not right…when the giant says Fee Fiy Foo Fum…no….when the elves give you lumps of coal instead of toys…no.
Damn, how do you keep all of these silly stories straight?
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Old 06-12-2003, 03:43 PM   #93
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Ok, lets use your lame attempt at proof Mageth. I know that my God does exist. So I guess he does, because I know he does, just you like you know He doesn't, because you said so. Sorry doesn't work. Go search the entire universe, under every rock, every star, every grain of sand before you claim you know God doesn't exist.
I think Mageth was referring to your Biblical description of god - we can KNOW that he doesn't exist because evidence of the events characterised in there have evidence that disproves it.
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I think you meant to say Mageth there, winstonjen...

But you are absolutely correct in your assessment.
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I think you meant to say Mageth there, winstonjen...

But you are absolutely correct in your assessment.
Thanks Mageth, you're right, and I have edited my post.
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Old 06-12-2003, 05:27 PM   #96
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I think Mageth was referring to your Biblical description of god - we can KNOW that he doesn't exist because evidence of the events characterised in there have evidence that disproves it.
Doesn't make any difference what He was referring to - making blatant factual statements like God does not exist, when know about as much knowledge compared to the complexity of the universe, as an ant trying to understand the Theory of Relativity. Its absurb, and makes you look foolish. Am I saying for a fact God exists all the time? No, i believe for a fact that God exists, I don't know so, because I'm not arrogant enough to believe I know every possibility there is in the universe.

And Mageth, Humans didn't evolve ever. Sorry, macroevolution isn't true. Scientists can't prove it, and the evidence isn't compelling enough, so evolution isn't true.
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Doesn't make any difference what He was referring to - making blatant factual statements like God does not exist, when know about as much knowledge compared to the complexity of the universe, as an ant trying to understand the Theory of Relativity. Its absurb, and makes you look foolish. Am I saying for a fact God exists all the time? No, i believe for a fact that God exists, I don't know so, because I'm not arrogant enough to believe I know every possibility there is in the universe.

And Mageth, Humans didn't evolve ever. Sorry, macroevolution isn't true. Scientists can't prove it, and the evidence isn't compelling enough, so evolution isn't true.
Doesn't make any difference what you were referring to - making blatant factual statements like God does exist, when knowing about as much knowledge compared to the complexity of the universe, as an ant trying to understand the Theory of Relativity. Its absurd, and makes you look foolish. Am I saying for a fact God does not exist all the time? No, i believe for a fact that God doesn't exist, I don't know so, because I'm not arrogant enough to believe I know every possibility there is in the universe.

And Magus, Humans did evolve. Sorry, creationism isn't true. Theists can't prove it, and the evidence isn't compelling enough, so evolution is true.
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So Jeff Dahmer killed and ate people ...

[dahmerapologetic]

Will you people cut it out! Okay, bad choice of words. But anyway, yes it's true, Jeff killed 17 people and flushed some of them down the crapper, and yes it's true Jeff announced for Jesus prior to getting a steel pipe that made his ears burn (to paraphrase Hugh Cornwell) in prison.

But Jeff did not eat people! Okay okay, he tasted ONE bicep, but that's eat! Er, I mean that's it! And he did not enjoy tasting that bicep.

Please, let's not sully Jeff's hard won rep.

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And Mageth, Humans didn't evolve ever. Sorry, macroevolution isn't true. Scientists can't prove it, and the evidence isn't compelling enough, so evolution isn't true.
This assertion, in the face of multiple scholars discovering and analyzing fossil evidence, lets us know that you are a complete and utter boob. Or you're willing and eager to lie your ass off for your dogma's sake, a la Martin Luther's championing of deceit. There is far more direct and verifiable evidence to support evolution, macroevolution, and the evolutionary path of humanity than the bible. And no, apologetic philosophic masturbation on the part of Aquinas and co. does not count as evidence of christian proof.
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Thats because God is also just and righteous. But in Heaven, who is there to judge? Everyone in heaven will have been found not guilty of their crimes - so God has no reason to judge us. Judgement comes to those who reject His pardon, and remain guilty as charged.
Magus, if someone attemted to overthrow heaven once what's to say that it won't happen again? God might very well have to judge in heaven.
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