Magus55

Until it sinks in and you stop mocking and ridiculing it foolishly. Oh wait that won't happen - guess i'm just wasting my time?

Biff the unclean

Gee, a story about a magically animated pile of dust, his wife the lady made out of spare ribs, their friend the talking snake and their adventures with a piece of magic produce.
Now who would ever think such a story was ridiculous ?
Since you only use it as an excuse for your utter comtempt of mankind, who would ever consider you to be acting ridiculously?

Mageth

It is so easy for you to mock and ridicule the Bible when you have absolutely no clue what it means.

Heck, it's even easier to "mock and ridicule" the Bible knowing full well what it means, or what it may mean, or what some people like you claim it means.

BTW, what does it mean, Magus? I keep hearing conflicting meanings from all those that are supposed to know what it means, or at least claim they know what it means.

They did know what don't, and forbid mean. Those aren't good or evil concepts.

So all those "thou shalts" and "thou shalt nots" in the bible are not "good and evil concepts"? When God forbade homosexual relations, he was not speaking of a "good and evil concept"?

Sheesh, the more you explain your concept of the meaning of the bible, the easier it is to "mock and ridicule".

Amaranth

:boohoo:

Demigawd

You forget that I was once a fundamentalist Christian. I got better. Perhaps one day you will as well. But until then I suppose you will continue to lay charges of mockery against anyone who doesn't blindly believe as you do and I once did.

Hedwig

How did they know this? They were completely and utterly ignorant.

Zucco

This ignores my original question. If everything god created was good, how did anything less than good exist? How did the concept of disobedience exist? Is disobedience "good?"

Let's just simplify things: Where did evil come from? Where did any imperfect things come from? How and why did a perfect god create imperfection or evil? How is this possible?

sophie

Zucco you asked : Really simply. If you think about it, we first have to start by premising GOD, omniGOD for short.

If all which exists is omniGOD, then anything originating from omniGOD is omniGOD. In your language you would say from GOD cometh GOD. To have that which cometh from omniGOD which is not(omniGOD), all omniGOD must be removeth from omniGOD. In your language this means GOD must create particles 'out of not(GOD)'. Surely if omniGOD was unwilling to do this, then another alternative would be to remove the omniGOD from that which is omniGOD. This leaves dust of God which has no GODliness in it. That is why there are monkeys and gorillas. As for the other alternatives, I'm sure in time we'll hear of them.

Finally because the human race posesses such wickedness and malice, it seems a natural conclusion we exist removed from GOD. I then believe all the religious types are trying their darndest to get the GOD back in us.

sophie

I have thought of the tree thing before. Some seem to qualify it as the tree of knowledge and the fruit is that which one bears in one's heart and mind. This amplifies the idea that knowledge can be borne with dignity or with malice.

Say for example, Eve found out that Adam was dependent on her (in more ways than one), and she used this knowledge to mistreat Adam, this would have a firm implication of a malpractice suit against Eve.

The side shows, the snake and the dancing monkeys are additional elements of knowing which must be carefully balanced in mind.

Alan N

Do you see evil as existing? Or good? When god created all the stuff and called it 'good', he called it good, that's it. Why can't the interpretation end there? I call my 2 year old good every day, but that doesn't mean he's perfect or without capacity for bad deeds.