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Old 07-24-2003, 01:49 PM   #11
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If I were a commercial real estate salesperson in this area I would find all the properties near this church and file for a permit under a fake business name , something like "Throbbing Penis Adult Books and Toys" to operate there. Then rack up the commissions when the church rushes to buy the properties at a now inflated price.
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What were the fundies so afraid of? No Christian would have set foot in any porn shop in the first place. Atheists are the ones keeping the whole porno industry in business! (and drugs, booze, gambling, etc.)

I'd love to see a porno shop in my town. I wouldn't have to pay the outrageous shipping and handling charges from my favorite catalog. (It comes in a plain brown wrapper)
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"We plan to picket, to make the community aware of how pornography hurts society, " said Marilyn Carroll, one of the protest organizers. "We don't want these places in Milford and we don't want the clientele they attract."
What about your husband, Marilyn?

Who do these people think are the customers for their town's porn shop? Bikers from Trenton?
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Now as the new landlord, I guess the fundies can kick the porn shop out.
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Friend, whose lease expires in December, said he plans to take advantage of the three-year extension his agreement provides, saying he has a credible business that is profitable, popular and protected by the First Amendment.
I'm not sure the sale negates his lease. They may have to honor his option to renew for three years that was negotiated with the prior owner. Not sure of real estate laws, but it's not unthinkable that CT could have laws requiring new owners to honor the terms of a pre-existing lease, until that agreement runs its course. Of course, all that would have to be fully disclosed before escrow closes, or the deal is null.
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I'm not sure the sale negates his lease. They may have to honor his option to renew for three years that was negotiated with the prior owner. Not sure of real estate laws, but it's not unthinkable that CT could have laws requiring new owners to honor the terms of a pre-existing lease, until that agreement runs its course. Of course, all that would have to be fully disclosed before escrow closes, or the deal is null.
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If you have a lease -- and you are right to call it a contract -- the new owner cannot change its conditions until its term is up.

If you rent month to month, the new owner is obliged to follow the same notice requirements that applied to the old owner: 30 days' notice (in most states) to raise the rent, change any term of the lease or terminate the tenancy.
Looks like the church might not get what they wanted, after all...

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Old 07-24-2003, 02:56 PM   #16
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The Christians have created a watershed industry. If I had the dough, I would open up a porno superstore in that town and then sent coverts into the local churches, maybe to attempt to set up a common fund into which they could all invest to by me out.

But the real issue is what did they do with all of those rubbery vibrating things?

PS: if someone has already covered these areas, I apologize for bringing them back up. I am in a hurry and I only read the O/P and the first reply.

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Actually, In this case the guy running the store is leasing and the fundies bought the building from the previous landlord. The proprietor of the shop sees none of that 245K. Now as the new landlord, I guess the fundies can kick the porn shop out.
It doesn't look like they can do anything until December 2006. They are in for a long wait.
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And once you've made enough money doing that, you could buy a church and turn it into a porn shop.
Ah, and you could sell the religious sex toys as sold at divine-interventions dot com (I won't link directly as there's some adult content).

Ob-On-Topic: Here's a real estate story that relates: There's an adult bookstore on the beach (Hwy 90) in Biloxi, Mississippi. The building is (or was) owned by a well-to-do couple in the community. The couple was into "traditional values" stuff and the wife was very active with the Catholic church. In the late eighties, they leased the building, on a long-term lease, to a guy who was going to run an video game arcade there. The guy ran the video arcade for a year or so and was losing money, so he converted it to an adult bookstore/arcade. The lease was apparently not professionally written, and there was nothing that the property owners could do to prevent the tenant from running an adult bookstore. The friends of the owners would goof of them, telling them they drove by "their porno shop" and the like. The adult bookstore made money, and was there when we moved from MS in 2000.

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It doesn't look like they can do anything until December 2006. They are in for a long wait.
Indeed. I hope either a) the church refuses to honor the option and the business owner sues the crap out of them or b) the owner has the church buy out the option for a hefty sum, and he opens a new store a block or so away .

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A related thing that church groups do is they will buy a liquor license and then close the establishment. Similar to this porn story but actually more effective because in many areas there is a finite number of licenses and they will not issue more regardless of whether the current ones are being used. Obviously, their goal is to own all of them and eliminate the industry. I find this practice incredibly disturbing, it really shouldn't be allowed.
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