southbound69us

Posted by NOGO:
Who decided what the NT would contain (ie which books) and when did that become sciptures?

edited to remove copyrighted material and provide, instead, a link to the original document

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mbible5.html

Constantine and Eusebius (damn him)....two VERY popular people in these forums....lol

Hope this helps,

~(Southbound)~

Toto

Southbound - do you write for the Straight Dope or just copy their material? And what does your post have to do with the topic?

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mbible5.html

accorn669

James Still,

What primary sources... I am not aware of this.


Iron Monkey,

Obviously you forgot to address the principle of the Trinity. Jesus was God and human at the same time. Its a rather hard concept for us to grasp, but then again, we are not God. If you were going to prove Jesus not to be God through scripture you should have included the part where Jesus prays to God the night before His death, asking for God to spare him.

Jenn,

Jesus never claimed to be God directly. However, He did so indirectly many times. If He had, He would have been immediately killed by the Pharisees.

Everyone,

I find that many times people are taking individual verses and applying them to a specific topic. With something like the Bible, however, most of the verses must be kept in context. The translation difficulties have alread be brought up. Translations are inconsistent from book to book because of age differences, however, looking past that, the meaning stays the same. Therefore, it is probable that irregularites can be pointed out by comparing the writting of different authors from different times. And no, the Bible was not written by God. Rather, it was inspired by Him.
2 Timothy 3:16
"All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rubuking, correcting, and training in righteousness."

Also, many of you refer to Christians' arguements as circular and illogical. Many of them are. Mine are not. An in depth view of the 200 years after Jesus' birth will show you that, at the very least, the people in those years viewed Christ's reserection to have been true. Most of the infomation comes from Roman records, which were kept very well. There is more evidence that Christ rose from the cross than there is that Washington crossed the Deleware. Of course, nothing can prove Christ's existence as God, or all of us would believe in Him. Christianity still requires a degree of faith, as does everything in life.

Peter Kirby

This is, as anyone who actually has taken an indepth view of the two hundred years after Jesus would know (or simply perused ECW or read Jeff Lowder's essay), completely and utterly false. Information from Romans about Christ in the first two centuries can be fit easily on a single page. The names of these non-Christian authors and what they said can be found in Lowder's essay.

best,
Peter Kirby

accorn669

I'm sorry, but Lowder's essay is not enough to convince me of the inaccuracy of much of the Christian history. It is biased and Lowder often makes assumptions with a lack of information. He does have some good points, I will give you that; however, he does not prove the Christian history to be completely and utterly false. Also, you might want to look up peruse.

best,
Geoff

Peter Kirby

Lowder doesn't argue about "the inaccuracy of much of the Christian history." Lowder provides information on extra-Christian references to Jesus that show the statement, "Most of the infomation comes from Roman records," to be completely and utterly false.

best,
Peter Kirby