trunks2k

It's not that we're objecting to the question or anything. What we're objecting to is why it was specifically directed to people who support homosexual rights. By doing so you directly imply that by default all supporters of homosexual rights also support pedophelia.

Fr.Andrew

Boy, this is a fun thread, huh?
Lady Shea, you're correct. I don't advocate for intergenerational sex and have never, not once, done so. Your assessment of my position is succinct and correct.

There is nothing in:
I don't agree that every instance of sexual contact between an adult and a child is molestation. Or abusive.
that indicates support or advocacy for intergenerational sex.
It was the rejection of an unsupported categorical assertion, no more.

With respect to the OP, you are all certainly correct that it clumsily suggests an association between homosexuality and pedophilia.
A suggestion with no basis in fact.

yguy

Then you shouldn't have any problem answering the question:

"And what precisely is the difference between such an instance which is abuse or molestation and one which is not?"

yguy

Have you been to this one?

http://www.gayasburypark.com/rainbowroom/rr061203.htm

A Parade of Mixed Messages
By Dane Hall

For the triCity News: In The Rainbow Room

Column #11 – June 12, 2003



Here, paraphrased, is what I believe is the Gay and Lesbian community’s number-one gripe with the way we’re perceived by a majority of the straight world:



“All the straight world focuses on when it comes to us is ‘the sex thing.’ We’re defined in their eyes solely on who we have sex with. They pass laws based solely on who we have sex with. All they focus on when it comes to us is ‘sex.’ And we’re about so much more than that.”



But also here, without failure, are the images printed, broadcast and disseminated to the world courtesy of the largest annual Gay & Lesbian event of its kind: New York City’s Gay Pride Parade.



*Montage: Large, vibrantly colorful floats overflowing with barely dressed muscle boys sweating and gyrating and/or simulating sexual acts. No spectator within 500 feet has any doubts as to whether any of the young turks on display are circumcised as so little is left to the imagination.



*Montage: Row after row of women, naked breasts in full view, either perched upon motorcycles or walking alongside in various degrees of undress, fists pumping in the air as they follow a banner which announces the collective group as “Dykes on Bikes.” This group, by the way, traditionally leads off the parade.



*A guaranteed inclusion in any piece broadcast on New York City’s Gay Pride Parade: The camera lingers on a shot of middle-aged men, some walking alongside boys who clearly have a number of years to go before they can remove the description “teen” from their on-line chat room profiles. The banner this group marches behind? NAMBLA, aka “The North American Man/Boy Love Association,” – the utterly appalling “organization” who’s stated goal is “to end the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships.” NAMBLA’s focus, by the way, is one newscasters never fail to point out in their reports.



Excuse me while I take a moment to vomit. <snip>

If this guy hates NAMBLA, and the vast majority of homosexuals do, why is it a fait accompli that they'll be in the parade?

Bree

It appears that yguy A) has a problem with pedophilia, B) has a problem with homosexuality, and C) has a problem with Fr. Andrew. I'm confused as to how this equates to "the homosexual agenda is the legalisation-and-acceptance-of-pedophilia-agenda" - something just does not compute.

yguy

Don't you?

I have a problem with his failure to answer a direct and pertinent question. Don't you?

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BTW, perhaps you missed this:

Originally posted by Bree:

On page 2, yguy claims he never said that homosexuality and pedophilia go hand-in-hand, and yet the very topic of this thread says otherwise.

yguy: Produce the exact quotes, if you would be so kind.

Viti

Um, the thread title maybe? What does this title Attention, homosexual rights advocates have to do with pedophilia?

yguy

Not good enough. I posted Bree's accusation in full for a reason. I want the exact quote from page two which she thinks indicates duplicity on my part with respect to the thread topic.

Viti

quote:
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Originally posted by john_v_h
Pedophilia advocates advocate homosexual rights.
Homosexual rights advocates advocate homosexual rights.
Therefore, homosexual rights advocates are pedophilia advocates.
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yguy: You guys are really getting to be a bore. If somebody doesn't attribute to me something I haven't said here 5 times a day, it's a bad day.
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So John posted a summary of your apparent argument linking pedophilia and homosexuality and you said it was incorrect

yguy

And it is. I have never said that the conclusion stated by John follows from the premises, as convenient as it is for you guys to oversimplify my argument.

Strike one.