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Old 03-28-2004, 09:16 AM   #51
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I can see that you haven't read much!
Civilisation is not what these archeologists say. Much greater civilisations have existed in the past
Do you have any actual evidence of what you say? Or any evidence of a gigantic planetwide conspiracy to make you look like a gibbering maniac, for that matter? Put up or shut up.
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You tend to think The West is so advanced. It's actually a complete chaos!Ready to explode in nuclear warfare at any time....
And India's not a nuclear power? Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
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They can also travel without any motor car to thousands of miles away and even to other planets....
News flash: Travelling somewhere else doesn't mean thinking you are there. Travelling somewhere else means actually being there. If these people had gone to, say, Mars, they would be dead. From hypothermia or anoxia is an open question, though.
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How about that?
You are talking a lot of nonsense. You are certainly quite convinced of your beliefs, but you don't seem to have any actual reason to believe what you do. Feel free to prove me wrong.
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Old 04-01-2004, 12:05 AM   #52
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Do you have any actual evidence of what you say? Or any evidence of a gigantic planetwide conspiracy to make you look like a gibbering maniac, for that matter? Put up or shut up. And India's not a nuclear power? Pull the other one, it's got bells on it. News flash: Travelling somewhere else doesn't mean thinking you are there. Travelling somewhere else means actually being there. If these people had gone to, say, Mars, they would be dead. From hypothermia or anoxia is an open question, though.You are talking a lot of nonsense. You are certainly quite convinced of your beliefs, but you don't seem to have any actual reason to believe what you do. Feel free to prove me wrong.
I am not saying that India is going the right way...In fact,they want to imitate the west!!! {Edit} you can't accept there is other education elsewhere,in the sacred scriptures.You're allergic to everything godly and you'll never make any progress
By travelling,the yogis don't need their gross body to do it...Do you know that we have a subtle body???? Then you also have to learn that!!!
The subtle body consists of mind,intelligence and false ego,and when you die or travel to subtle realms,you don't need your subtle body,as it wouldn't adapt in other atmospheres.
All this can be read in the book called Srimad Bhagavatam by Srila Prabhupada,and there are also other more detailed books that intelligent people are now discovering in the west. So why don't you do the same,instead of staying in your restricted hole.The toad in a hole,can it imagine the greatness of the ocean????
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HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA
KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE
HARE RAMA HARE RAMA
RAMA RAMA HARE HARE
MARI JUANA MARI JUANA
JUANA JUANA MARI MARI

(A cool point to the first person to know where this is from.)


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MARI JUANA MARI JUANA
JUANA JUANA MARI MARI

(A cool point to the first person to know where this is from.)


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I was wondering when someone was going to quote from Hair.
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Old 04-02-2004, 04:40 AM   #55
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Old 04-02-2004, 01:02 PM   #56
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Because you haven't read much
Baseless assertion.
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and have a tendency to restrict yourself in your poor education
Also baseless assertion
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you can't accept there is other education elsewhere
Sure I can. I just haven't found any in what you say.
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You're allergic to everything godly
Allergic? No. Think is a load of horseshit? Yes.
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and you'll never make any progress
I think I have made an awful lot of progress in dropping these ludicrous imaginings so many people are burdened by. You think you know an awful lot about me just from the fact that I don't agree with you, but frankly, all you're doing is flinging excrement. I'd much rather you fling evidence. Don't you have any?

By evidence, I do not mean saying 'there is a massive scientific conspiracy to suppress the truth'. By evidence, I do not mean saying 'Yes indeed there IS a soul you heartless bastard'. That's three-year-old logic. Saying so doesn't make it so.

By evidence I do not mean saying 'Yes indeed these people have been to other planets by sheer force of will'. That's three-year-old logic. Saying so doesn't make it so.

By evidence I do not mean 'I found this guys book really really convincing.' Obviously, you did. I want to know what evidence contained in this book convinced you, if any.

By evidence I do not mean 'Read the book damnit, its all in there'. If you've read it, you know it, but you seem completely unable to formulate any points to support what you say.

Also, after the lies you've told about me, you think I'm about to take your word on any of this?

I want evidence. Evidence is something you can point to that demonstrates that these beliefs are anything more than the fevered imaginations of true believers. If these beliefs cannot hold up to close scrutiny, what good are they?
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By travelling,the yogis don't need their gross body to do it...Do you know that we have a subtle body???? Then you also have to learn that!!!
Please provide evidence that these 'subtle bodies' exist anywhere else but the fevered imaginations of true believers.
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The subtle body consists of mind,intelligence and false ego,and when you die or travel to subtle realms,you don't need your subtle body,as it wouldn't adapt in other atmospheres.
Please provide any evidence that these properties exist anywhere but the fevered imaginations of true believers.
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All this can be read in the book called Srimad Bhagavatam by Srila Prabhupada,and there are also other more detailed books that intelligent people are now discovering in the west. So why don't you do the same,instead of staying in your restricted hole.The toad in a hole,can it imagine the greatness of the ocean????
Several reasons. First and foremost, I have asked you repeatedly to give evidence - any evidence at all - that what these people believe actually bears any resemblance to reality, and all you have given me in answer is say 'buy this guys book' and 'you are an ignorant evil western troglodyte'. Despite how strongly you believe, you don't actually seem to have any real reason to believe what you do. If the worldview you have aquired from this book is that shallow, either you haven't really read it or the book is a complete waste of time.

{Edit}. I try and argue rationally. You call me names. Frankly, you aren't acting particularly enlightened.
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