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Old 02-06-2005, 10:53 AM   #21
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Now all those "natural" abortions will need to be investigated as possible homicides.
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Now all those "natural" abortions will need to be investigated as possible homicides.
Well, I want to know why pregnant women can't have their vote count for two people. And why can't feti get life insurance? And what about their right to bear arms?
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I wonder if these Republicans would also be for surgeons refusing to operate on gays because of "moral or religious" reasons?
Ooh, mind if I use that sometime?
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I just need to walk down to the capitol and start smacking heads...

Anti-abortion foes target use of pill


But, no, wait check this out:


ARRRRRRGGHHHHH! How do they expect to decrease abortions if they're increasing unwanted pregnancies!!!!!

And yes, I will be firing off several strongly worded letters to the AJC and my local representatives.

Thank you for listening, folks, you've been great.
You assume that they see birth control and abortion as separate things. birth control of that kind prevents implantation so they consider it a form of abortion. :devil1:
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You assume that they see birth control and abortion as separate things. birth control of that kind prevents implantation so they consider it a form of abortion. :devil1:
The catholic church, of course, is against both contraception and abortion. The pope apparently wants to canonise yet another woman who died because she refused an abortion that could have helped save her life. I'm sorry I can't quickly find a reference, but here is an earlier one. These women who "selflessly" die, leaving their existing children orphaned, seem to be the only ones to register on the Vatican radar.

Here is the latest example.
 
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How can she respect such liberty when there is a law being passed that would infringe upon the liberty of countless women? In my opinion, they do not have the right to deny a requested medication if the pharmacy stocks it.
You desire the deny the right to association of a particular Pharmcist. Then likewise, others will deny your freedoms also.

There are plenty of Pharmacist alternatives for any medication. It is no big deal.

What is a big deal is citizen tyrants wishing to deny the freedoms to others.
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You desire the deny the right to association of a particular Pharmcist. Then likewise, others will deny your freedoms also.

There are plenty of Pharmacist alternatives for any medication. It is no big deal.

What is a big deal is citizen tyrants wishing to deny the freedoms to others.
So, what if a Christian Scientist becomes a Pharmacist? They don't believe in medication at all, do they? Would they have the right to collect that salary and refuse to dispense any medication?

Personally, I believe that it's the place of doctors to prescribe medication and the pharmicist to dispense it as ordered. Otherwise, they should try a different profession. If I want a pharmacist making my medical choices, I would not bother with doctors or hospitals.
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You assume that they see birth control and abortion as separate things. birth control of that kind prevents implantation so they consider it a form of abortion. :devil1:

Exactly.

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So, what if a Christian Scientist becomes a Pharmacist? They don't believe in medication at all, do they? Would they have the right to collect that salary and refuse to dispense any medication?

Personally, I believe that it's the place of doctors to prescribe medication and the pharmicist to dispense it as ordered. Otherwise, they should try a different profession. If I want a pharmacist making my medical choices, I would not bother with doctors or hospitals.
They have a legitimate watchdog role in catching things that a combination of doctors might have missed. That's the only reason they should refuse to fill a prescription, though.
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So, what if a Christian Scientist becomes a Pharmacist? They don't believe in medication at all, do they? Would they have the right to collect that salary and refuse to dispense any medication?
Yes. It is the right to fail. (or succeed)

The problem with 'Total' laws meaning banning things, one size fits all, just pass another law, everyone must follow; the problem with squashing liberty is that it wrongly eliminates alternatives. With only ONE alternative, passed by a misguided total law, there is no more comparison. No comparison via liberty, means cannot tell good from bad.

Let us regulate ALL pharmcists to behave the same. Now how can you tell good medicine from bad medicine??

How can you see that the 'Christian Scientist' is better or worse than another Doctor if they are all must behave the same?? Remember, everyone-the-same means the same bad habits also.

Finally, look ... the bill of rights is good list of liberties. Well written ... association etc. Learn them. Because liberty exposes alternatives so we can compare good from bad. Instead selectvely applied, we are all stuck with the 'bad' with misguided 'total' solutions.
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