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Godless Dave · 07-15-2002, 06:23 AM

"No synogague parking"

Perchance · 07-15-2002, 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by himynameisPwn:
Perchance, off topic, where do you teach? Im a high school senior and deciding colleges next year. Would be lovely to have an infidel teacher.

The University of Kentucky, in Lexington.

To give you an idea of what sometimes goes on here, we had a demonstration this past year of anti-abortion activists called "Abortion is Genocide." Including poster-size pictures of aborted fetuses. Lovely.

-Perchance.

Jimmy Higgins · 07-15-2002, 08:08 AM

I remember an old episode, back when they had to sneak stuff like that in.

The kids were in sunday school and were asking a bunch of questions to the teacher like, "When my cat dies, will it go to heaven?" and "Where is my grandfather?" Of course, Bart is asking his own stupid questions.

Frustrated, the teacher just blurts out, "Is a little blind faith to much to ask?"

LordMoneyG · 07-15-2002, 08:40 AM

One of my favorite Simpson's moments, with a little paraphrasing -

Homer (looking at ceiling, praying) - "Dear god, I ask for your help..."

Marge - "That's not god, Homer. That's just a waffle that Bart threw up on the ceiling this morning." (knocking waffle down with broom)

Homer (catching waffle) - "Dear lord, I know I should not eat thee...(taking bite)...Mmmmmm, sacrelicious..."

Classic stuff.

[ July 15, 2002: Message edited by: LordMoneyG ]

MacPrince · 07-15-2002, 06:31 PM

From <a href="http://www.snpp.com/episodes/AABF03" target="_blank">Lisa Gets an "A"</a>

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Bart: Oh, I'm starving! Mom, can we go Catholic so we can get communion wafers and booze?
Marge: No, no one's going Catholic. Three children is enough, thank you.

And, my favorite Simpsons religion reference of all time, from <a href="http://www.snpp.com/episodes/AABF08" target="_blank">�Sunday, Cruddy Sunday�</a>:

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A lone blue automobile drives down a deserted road. When it reaches a tiny two-pump gas station, a man steps out. Seeing no one else around, he beeps his horn. The door to the station pops open; three minimally-clothed young women step out as ZZ Top's "Legs" plays, sans vocals. After a bit of posing and wiggling, they go to work cleaning and gassing up his car, until the man notices a cross hanging around the neck of the blonde. A voice-over says, "The Catholic Church. We've made a few ... changes." Marge, Lisa, and Maggie sit on the couch, watching all of this on TV. "These Super Bowl commercials are weird," Lisa concludes.

Unforunately, the Catholics didn't like it and it doesn't show up in most showings of the episode.

Abacus · 07-15-2002, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by Perchance:


The University of Kentucky, in Lexington.

To give you an idea of what sometimes goes on here, we had a demonstration this past year of anti-abortion activists called "Abortion is Genocide." Including poster-size pictures of aborted fetuses. Lovely.

-Perchance.

We had the same thing here last summer. They stood along the main dragways during rush hour holding up their signs. Very, very, uncool. Needless to say, there were a lot of angry letter-to-the-editors the following week in the local newspaper.

Brahma's atheist · 07-20-2002, 01:15 AM

Perchance

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One of my students this past semester wrote a paper about how the Simpsons were "the best show ever" for promoting family values (whatever that means!)
I wonder if he was aware of all this

I hope I'm not being patronising but I think a lot of people don't quite get The Simpsons or similar shows. They just see funny yellow characters.
Matt Groening himself says these are adult shows.
From your other replies I have to ask if it's simply scary where you live.
Macprince on 'Sunday Cruddy Sunday', We are lucky enough to see the bikini clad nuns. The fundies haven't taken over here or they simply don't watch the shows.

A scene I like which I'm probably misquoting has Homer at the dining table about to eat something
'God if you want me to eat this doughnut do nothing now' I think he does this a couple of times.
There is an ambiguous episode of Futurama where Bender is floating space and becomes a god to tiny beings that colonise him. Then when they've destroyed themselves he meets god in space. The episode has some brilliant scenes in it.

Brahma's atheist · 07-20-2002, 01:26 AM

I just remembered the Futurama episode with Santa Clause. I love the song 'Santa Clause is gunning you down'
In the episode where Bender is Santa, at the end Santa rescues Bender from execution and Zoidberg is dressed as Jesus.The Warden shouts to 'Jesus' to save them when Santa starts shooting. Zoidberg yells 'God helps those who help themselves' and runs.

excreationist · 07-20-2002, 04:12 AM

Sid, Santa Claus has no "e" in it... (though that blaphemous Disney movie spells it with an "e")

Perchance · 07-20-2002, 09:56 AM

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Yes, there were people at the University who were upset and protesting (such as a women's rights group) but they didn't get nearly as much attention as the genocide people.

I suppose the University was afraid of disruptions, though, as there was a police car parked next to the anti-abortion protest the entire time it was going on.

Sid:

I didn't used to think it was scary. But I'm coming to accept that I've spent a lot of time in a 'sheltered environment' (first a home with non-believing parents, then four years at a small college where a few people were so leftist they were loony, and most others were centrist). And now I'm in a much larger, more conservative, and much more religious environment, shortly after the terrorist attacks that made so many people start to think in black-and-white religious terms, and where I haven't met a single other non-believer in all the time I've been there. It was a nasty shock.

Also, I'm remembering things that I shrugged off as jokes at the time I experienced them (such as my Mormon friend's attempt to convert me the summer before my senior year of high school) and wondering if they were serious. I don't live in fear for my life, but I'm starting to get quietly irritated with some of the stuff I see around here, and frightened by some of it, too.

And I can quite easily believe that most people don't grasp the 'point' (or some of the points) made by the Simpsons. I don't think I watch it often enough to really know what they're getting at myself, always, but I do know a lot of the things in my student's paper didn't seem to make sense.

-Perchance.

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LordMoneyG Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 125	One of my favorite Simpson's moments, with a little paraphrasing - Homer (looking at ceiling, praying) - "Dear god, I ask for your help..." Marge - "That's not god, Homer. That's just a waffle that Bart threw up on the ceiling this morning." (knocking waffle down with broom) Homer (catching waffle) - "Dear lord, I know I should not eat thee...(taking bite)...Mmmmmm, sacrelicious..." Classic stuff. [ July 15, 2002: Message edited by: LordMoneyG ]</p>

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07-15-2002, 06:23 AM	#21
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	"No synogague parking"

07-15-2002, 08:08 AM	#23
Jimmy Higgins Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Proud Citizen of Freedonia Posts: 42,473	I remember an old episode, back when they had to sneak stuff like that in. The kids were in sunday school and were asking a bunch of questions to the teacher like, "When my cat dies, will it go to heaven?" and "Where is my grandfather?" Of course, Bart is asking his own stupid questions. Frustrated, the teacher just blurts out, "Is a little blind faith to much to ask?"

07-20-2002, 01:26 AM	#28
Brahma's atheist Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: (not so) United Kingdom Posts: 514	I just remembered the Futurama episode with Santa Clause. I love the song 'Santa Clause is gunning you down' In the episode where Bender is Santa, at the end Santa rescues Bender from execution and Zoidberg is dressed as Jesus.The Warden shouts to 'Jesus' to save them when Santa starts shooting. Zoidberg yells 'God helps those who help themselves' and runs.

07-20-2002, 04:12 AM	#29
excreationist Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 4,886	Sid, Santa Claus has no "e" in it... (though that blaphemous Disney movie spells it with an "e")

07-20-2002, 09:56 AM	#30
Perchance Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,059	Random Number Generator: Yes, there were people at the University who were upset and protesting (such as a women's rights group) but they didn't get nearly as much attention as the genocide people. I suppose the University was afraid of disruptions, though, as there was a police car parked next to the anti-abortion protest the entire time it was going on. Sid: I didn't used to think it was scary. But I'm coming to accept that I've spent a lot of time in a 'sheltered environment' (first a home with non-believing parents, then four years at a small college where a few people were so leftist they were loony, and most others were centrist). And now I'm in a much larger, more conservative, and much more religious environment, shortly after the terrorist attacks that made so many people start to think in black-and-white religious terms, and where I haven't met a single other non-believer in all the time I've been there. It was a nasty shock. Also, I'm remembering things that I shrugged off as jokes at the time I experienced them (such as my Mormon friend's attempt to convert me the summer before my senior year of high school) and wondering if they were serious. I don't live in fear for my life, but I'm starting to get quietly irritated with some of the stuff I see around here, and frightened by some of it, too. And I can quite easily believe that most people don't grasp the 'point' (or some of the points) made by the Simpsons. I don't think I watch it often enough to really know what they're getting at myself, always, but I do know a lot of the things in my student's paper didn't seem to make sense. -Perchance.

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