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Old 02-07-2002, 02:22 PM   #21
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Corey Hammer:
Thanks for the info... a "goals monitor" was kind of what I was talking about...
I don't have a problem with consciousness being in different parts of the brain as long as it is intergrated together. (not independent) BTW, what do you think about those theories that involve the <a href="http://www.phil.vt.edu/assc/newman/" target="_blank">thamulus</a>?
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I think that the research is doomed to dealing with overly ocmplex phenomena because they are taking a near comeplete bottom up approach. It may not work well.

But as to consciousness as a psychological construct, you are positing a central executive. I'm restating a hypothesis that consciousness is a simple pattern matcher, determining whether goals are met, in progress, or not being met. There is a difference. As another poster pointed out, you are positing a homunculus, which itself would need a control system, hence the russian dolls comment that made.

I looked at your diagram again and it is very off.

The basic IP model is:

1. Sensory Memory

2. Channel Filters (Note: there is disagreement about the scope and existence of the filters)

3. Selective Perception

4. Memory-Working Memory (i.e., the new term for STM) is most likely an activated subset of the Long Term Store. Goals would be held in the WM and checked against stored encodings in the LTS.

Long Term Store is also nonsymbolic (i.e, it is not pictures and words). Symbols in working memory are reconstructed continually from nonsymbolic LTS.

Plus, all of this is supported by a large amount of nonconscious processing nor does this cover implicit memory effects (e.g., pure specualtion, but what you called intuition is probably in part the effects of implicit memory).

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