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Old 06-17-2003, 10:48 AM   #21
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I had an NDE about 13 years ago and I'm still near atheist.

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How can that be?! I thought anyone who had an NDE would be CONVINCED of God's existence. Not that I've had one, but the NDEs sound very convincing. All NDEs tell of an encounter with a Loving Light Being - God.
Dear emotional, I assume you're being a little tongue in cheek here?

I've also had an NDE,and I can assure you that I encountered no being-loving light being or otherwise-who held any kid of existance outside of my fevered and dying brain.
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Dear emotional, I assume you're being a little tongue in cheek here?


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I've also had an NDE,and I can assure you that I encountered no being-loving light being or otherwise-who held any kid of existance outside of my fevered and dying brain.
I don't care how you interpret your experience. For me, NDEs are evidence of life after death, and nothing anyone says could ever change that. And even if there weren't NDEs at all, I'd believe in life after death. My beliefs are independent of evidence. Blind faith is what makes me tick.
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How can that be?! I thought anyone who had an NDE would be CONVINCED of God's existence.
You thought wrong. Before the NDE I didn't believe in any kind of afterlife now I do. As for the existence of God that is still up in the air. My NDE didn't resemble anything in any of the abrahamic religions. Which was even more confusing because that was all I knew at the time.
Well if you run off of blind faith then I have nothing to really say. My faith is based of of my own experiences which is why it can be considered myth by others. If you can't prove something then it is a myth. Like I said before, words only go so far. If you can't experience it then it will have no context for you. I think people are still hung up on the word Myth.
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The problem with Åsatru is that much of that faith have been used very much by neo-nazis and former satanists at least here in Norway and even more in Sweden.

I know Germany used it a bit in their recruitment posters in norway, showing viking longships in the background of SS soldiers and stuff like that.
I dont however that the neo-nazi and the pre WW2 nazi use of Asatro have much to do about real faith and belief in them.
Its more about "the glorious past of the germanic master race blahablaha".

Mind you, using christian symbolics was alot more common from what I've seen, describing the war against russia as a european crusade against "godless communism" and stuff like that.
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The problem with Åsatru is that much of that faith have been used very much by neo-nazis and former satanists at least here in Norway and even more in Sweden. Some of you may have heard about the infamous Black Metal-murder in Oslo in 1993(?) Well greven (aka the Count, Count Grisnakh, Burzum) was the one who commited that murder, changed name from Christian(!) to Varg and began writing nationalistic Åsatru-metal. The worst of the lot is probably Vigrid. Vigrid is a militant nationalistic and racist organization where the leader sees himself as the incarnate son of Odin. What really pisses me off is that soon we have no national symbols left that those BASTARDS havn't exploited.
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Are there any Asatru on these boards? I know Ojuice is Romana, but I was wondering if anyone follows the Norse path.

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Old 08-04-2003, 05:12 AM   #27
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Or, for that matter, any followers of Druidism or Celticism here?

I always like to look around this board for rational Pagans. I find it to be refreshing after dealing with the new age nonsense that Paganism has fallen into as of the last 20 years or so.

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I'm studying Celtic Paganism right now. I'm fairly new to it so I don't think I would be able to hold an interesting conversation on the subject. The coven I'm studying with is strictly Celtic.
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Slightly off topic here but I was curious.

It sounds like for you (please correct me if I have this wrong)at least to some degree these myths represent a story tradition whereby insight into human nature is transmitted in allegorical form. I was just curious as to what you think of modern authors who take and update or rework these stories for comercial gain?

For example one of my favorite authors David Drake routine takes myths from the old traitions and reworks them into scince fiction stories. The celtic and norse traitions regularly show up in fantansy, historical fantasy, and historical fiction.
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Could you give me a quick overview of the Celtic idea of life after death? I keep getting conflicting sources. I have heard almost karmatic reincarnation, Otherworld, voluntary reincarnation, etc...

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