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Old 05-06-2003, 12:40 PM   #31
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The bible teaches to fellowship with the unbeliever, I believe Paul said after 2 or 3 attempts to give them the message of the gospel and they reject, then one is supposed to disfellowship with them.

However this is a messageboard and is too constrictive to properly convey the gospel.
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The bible teaches to fellowship with the unbeliever, I believe Paul said after 2 or 3 attempts to give them the message of the gospel and they reject, then one is supposed to disfellowship with them.

However this is a messageboard and is too constrictive to properly convey the gospel.
So in ONE PLACE the bible tells you to (only briefly) fellowship with us, until it's clear that we won't buy your story. Then what. Although there's always the issue of me being female and maybe you should run like the wind.

Your bible ALSO SAYS, as I quoted above, a bunch of other things. Not so nice. Wicked, darkness...\

care to address the scripture I quoted and how it instructs you to HATE AND FEAR me?
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It's a two-way street, you know.
Exactly.

Not all Christians are closed minded, just like all atheists are not closed minded.

To be fair there are people of all beliefs (or unbeliefs) that are closed off to certain things, whether they be worldly or spiritually.

Most people operate based on some form of upbringing and presuppositions, and therefore whether they realize it or not, can appear to be biased and closed minded.

Of course there are people that are open to all theologies and explainations for our existence.

It just isn't fair (mostly to yourselves) to stereotype and put people in boxes.
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The bible teaches to fellowship with the unbeliever, I believe Paul said after 2 or 3 attempts to give them the message of the gospel and they reject, then one is supposed to disfellowship with them.

However this is a messageboard and is too constrictive to properly convey the gospel.
Interesting, so let me get this strait. You think that the atheists on this board are atheists because they didn't get the memo? And that you, the amazing and compelling Badfish could show us the error of our ways if only you could face us. Even someone as dense as you must realize how moronic that is. Consider the possibility that we have been getting the message of Christianity as often as we get junk mail. We are not Christians because we do not find the message convincing, compelling or consistent. Mostly we find it conniving. If only it were the case that I had been preached to in my life just two or three times. Badfish you are living in a dream world.

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So in ONE PLACE the bible tells you to (only briefly) fellowship with us, until it's clear that we won't buy your story. Then what. Although there's always the issue of me being female and maybe you should run like the wind.

Your bible ALSO SAYS, as I quoted above, a bunch of other things. Not so nice. Wicked, darkness...\

care to address the scripture I quoted and how it instructs you to HATE AND FEAR me?
All that scripture? Thats a lot, and you are misreading a lot of it.

Unequally yoked means to not marry with an unbeliever because what kind of Godly union can come of it, however I would think the unbeliever would have to demonstrate that they absolutely have no intention of becoming Christian to warrant a denial of marriage based on this scripture.

I would address these and others one at a time, in context they are not always what they seem. However i will peck away at them as I get time.

If you guys and gals were open to it, we could have a bible study and open mindedly attempt to reconcile many of the misconceptions unbelievers have with christianity and the scriptures.

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Although there's always the issue of me being female and maybe you should run like the wind.
I don't understand this, what does being female have to do with anything?
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Interesting, so let me get this strait. You think that the atheists on this board are atheists because they didn't get the memo? And that you, the amazing and compelling Badfish could show us the error of our ways if only you could face us. Even someone as dense as you must realize how moronic that is. Consider the possibility that we have been getting the message of Christianity as often as we get junk mail. We are not Christians because we do not find the message convincing, compelling or consistent. Mostly we find it conniving. If only it were the case that I had been preached to in my life just two or three times. Badfish you are living in a dream world.

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Have you heard the gospel completely and to your satisfaction to make an educated and open minded decision to reject it? I'll bet your not sure about that one.
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If you guys and gals were open to it, we could have a bible study and open mindedly attempt to reconcile many of the misconceptions unbelievers have with christianity and the scriptures.

Oh the guys and gals are open to it alright:

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Have you heard the gospel completely and to your satisfaction to make an educated and open minded decision to reject it? I'll bet your not sure about that one.

Speaking for myself, I have, and I am.
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Hello Blondegoddess,
First off, DMB is absolutely right about the difference between the US and the UK in terms of how atheists are regarded.
Here we have arrived at a state in which to be an atheists is perfectly respectable - even for a bishop of the church...
Being a Christian or Muslim or Hindu (or anything) is perfectly respectable too, as long as its done in moderation. What Society here is suspicious of is the fanatic.
I should say, however, that acceptance of atheists is fairly recent. Up until the 1950s, a person hoping for respectability was pretty much obliged to go to church on occasion and keep disbelief in the closet.
The US is always socially behind, we might get around to it one day...
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If you guys and gals were open to it, we could have a bible study and open mindedly attempt to reconcile many of the misconceptions unbelievers have with christianity and the scriptures.
HJ is right, BC&A would be a good place to have these discussions. However, please keep in mind that there's a fine line between "open mindedly attemp[ing] to reconcile" and outright preaching. The latter has no place in an upper-level fora.
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