yguy

What the hell are you talking about?

I haven't changed my tune on a damned thing. If they converted of their own free will, what's the problem?

Biff the unclean

Then you support the anti-Semitic aims of the Southern Baptists who are targeting Jews for conversion with their so called "Messanic Jew" cult? Because you had said that they weren't converting, now you say they are. Are you having trouble understanding this topic? Because you seem to be losing your temper and are becoming erratic in your use of logic.

yguy

How in hell do you get that out of anything I said?

I haven't said whether anyone is converting or not. I said IF Jews are converting of their own free will it isn't a problem.

For crying out loud, how hard is this??

I'm not the one drawing silly, gruatuitous inferences here, pal. Think you can find it in your cold, cold heart to argue with something I actually SAID?

Biff the unclean

Think you can find it in your cold, cold heart to argue with something I actually SAID?

Well I guess not since you can't decide if you support this cult that is subverting Judaism or are opposed to subverting Judaism. You seem to only want to take an opposing view of whatever question is asked even when the questions themselves are about opposing views. You seem to be against everything. For someone who brags of being "locked and loaded" you are uniquely unprepared to discuss any topic.

yguy

That's because all I know about this "cult" as regards its efforts to convert Jews is what I've heard from you. Pardon me if I am not sufficiently impressed with your display (or not) of intellectual honesty to find your representation of the Southern Baptists credible.

I have addressed the topic, of course. That I have failed to do so in a way that lends itself to the propagation of your bigotry isn't my problem.

Biff the unclean

That's because all I know about this "cult" as regards its efforts to convert Jews is what I've heard from you.
Since it was the subject of the major news magazines--even making the cover of Time---and was a major segment on NPR your ignorance of the topic is not from it's obscurity.

Pardon me if I am not sufficiently impressed with your display (or not) of intellectual honesty to find your representation of the Southern Baptists credible.
I, on the other hand, am impressed that you can read what Magus has written and not recognize it as the Southern Baptist version of Christianity, when it bears no resemblance to the philosophy of any other Xian posting in GRD. It's almost as if you go out of your way not to know things that might disagree with your views.

I have addressed the topic, of course.
If you consider evasion a form of addressing a topic…
That I have failed to do so in a way that lends itself to the propagation of your bigotry isn't my problem.
Ahhh, I'm a bigot now am I? You do like name-calling. I suppose it's your only resort. But the problem with calling me a bigot on a board like this is two fold. First, we are on my turf. Most of the people here are non-theists just like me and what you are calling bigotry is merely lack of theism. Secondly, every last word I've written is still there. All one need do is scroll up to see if I'm a bigot or not. What they will find is you carrying on like a hormone engulfed adolescent.

yguy

Sue me.

The Southern Baptist view of Christianity being of no particular interest to me, there is nothing remarkable about that. It's irrelevant to anything I've said here.

What does that have to do with anything?

There is nothing about the Southern Baptists' efforts to convert Jews to Christianity that has any bearing whatsoever on the core of my argument.

This, of course, is a relativistic illusion caused by the fact that you are trying to manufacture a new frame of reference for the debate, seeing as how your attempts to discredit anything I've said have been a miserable failure.

You most certainly are.

It has its legitimate uses.

I suppose I should find your clownish determination to sabotage your own credibility laughable; at the moment I can only find it tedious. There are plenty of atheists here who aren't bigots. You just don't happen to be on of them.

Indeed, let the reader decide.

Wayne P

Well, of course this is irrelevent and evades any of the other points I made in the post, but I'm not surprised.

Rational BAC

Does anyone on this forum believe that Jesus was not a Jew?

Does anyone on this forum believe that Jesus did not believe He was a Jew? And that He thought He was fulfilling Judaism?

Does anyone on this forum disbelieve that a minor cult of Judaism did believe that Jesus was the Messiah in the 1st century?

What is wrong with being a 1st century Jew belonging to a minor cult of Judaism?

What is wrong with Magus saying he is a 1st century Jew?

You all atheists are getting a little silly on this one. Magus is correct and Yguy is also correct.

Legalism and nit picking gets a little stupid sometimes.

Sometimes it seems like atheists are as bad as Fundies. Arguing about the trees when they should see the forest.

yguy

You shouldn't be, since none of that drivel is germane to the question of Judaism being in conflict with Christianity. It's Magus-baiting - nothing more.