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Old 06-13-2002, 03:10 AM   #41
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Stalagmite

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Both point up.
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Old 06-13-2002, 05:03 AM   #42
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Stalactites have to hold on tight...

because otherwise they might fall.
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Old 06-13-2002, 05:16 AM   #43
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Welcome, FeistyCreationChick.

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First of all, how is evolutionism more credible than creationism? </strong>
Perhaps because it has been observed and tested, over and over? And has passed the tests? And creationism has not?

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How is it more believable that our entire universe with it's complex make-up formed out of gases?
Make up your mind. Do you want to talk about evolution, or do you want to talk about cosmology and the origin of the universe?

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Creationism supports science in more ways just because it ADMITS that nothing can be formed from nothing. Nothing can come from nothing. Something that is created must first have a creator, an architect, even if it just happens to be a bunch of gases.
Do you see the circularity of your argument here?

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I can understand why people are turned off by creationism only by one observation: They have connected it with man's formation of religion.
Then please explain why so many people who believe in God, including many who are Christians, have no problem believing in evolution?

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Oh, one more thing...you guys need to not only read evolution literature, you need to read creation literature.
I have read several creationist books and found all of them woefully lacking in a sound understanding of geology and biology.

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I have read many books on evolutionism so that I could understand what it was that I needed to debate against.
Well, there's your problem right there. You need to start reading books on evolution rather than evolutionism. It's no wonder you don't understand evolution.

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Remember, Carbon Dating has now proven to be totally inconclusive.
Darn, that must be why we can't say for sure whether trilobites, plesiosaurs and whales all lived at the same time?

Sorry if I sound a bit impatient, but we've heard all these arguments, many times over. Unless you're bringing to the table something we've never heard before, or can start going into specifics, you will not be taken more seriously than the post-and-run creationists we get here all the time.
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Old 06-13-2002, 05:26 AM   #44
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Unless you're bringing to the table something we've never heard before, or can start going into specifics, you will not be taken more seriously than the post-and-run creationists we get here all the time.
Yeah but this one's feisty!
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Old 06-13-2002, 05:40 AM   #45
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<strong>Stalagmite

Mountain

Both point up.</strong>
Stalactite = Top

They're the ones on top.

(I hope you come back, Feisty. We could introduce you to Tricia, our other feisty creationist chick.)

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Tell me where these gases came from.
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I would venture a guess, but I don't want to be impolite.</strong>
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I have read many books on evolutionism so that I could understand what it was that I needed to debate against.
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Which ones?

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Not she said "on evolution" not "for evolution".
It sounds like she has read the complete works of Kent Hovind in preperation.

Hey FCC: How are those herbivore Tyranasourus' of Kents doing?
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Hey FCC: How are those herbivore Tyranasourus' of Kents doing?</strong>
When I asked my fundy sister once if she really believed that T Rex used his big teeth to crack open coconuts, she cleverly retorted, Well...well...do you really believe that we evolved from an ameba?



(Sadly, not being scigirl or anything resembling her, I was actually struck speechless.)

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<strong>Krishna is even cooler. He's Blue!</strong>
Hanuman is the best because he's a monkey!
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I love this idea about the rules of Cause and Effect proving there's a god: the universe being the cause and god the effect.
So what is god the effect of? Or does this universal rule breakdown when it comes to the Creator?
The question is, what was god doing before he/she/it created the universe? Having lunch? He/she/it must have had something chewy or he/she/it wouldn't have needed the teeth which man got when he was made in god's image.
Also, where was this lunch? Not in heaven because Genesis says heaven was created on the second day.
Perhaps there are lots and lots of gods and perhaps they're playing a kind of extra-cosmic game, seeing which one can make the best, most interesting universe.
You know, they've tried out one million billion trillion ideas when Sam (our god, to his pals) has the idea of sub-atomic particles and the other bits I don't understand, and hey! the universe which now comes into being has US.
When this universe eventually winds down or winds up or does whatever it's going to do, Sam will probably have lost interest in it and be watching the video replay of those exciting things he/she/it got up to when man was still pretty new, like the Flood.
“Them were the days,” he/she/it will sigh happily as he/she/it casually picks his/her its nose.
I think Sam requires a whole new religion. If I were to found it, write a holy book etc, do you suppose I'd become very rich?
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