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FoE · 05-08-2003, 03:17 PM

I understand the Americans worry about more pot moving south across the border, much like we're concerned about handguns moving north across the border. But doesn't the US actually produce more marijuana than Canada anyway?

Evangelion · 05-08-2003, 03:18 PM

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If "having a lend at me" means what I think it means, then no.

It's actually "having a lend of you." And yes, it means what you think it means.

And now I'm even more horrified.

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Living at the busiest border crossing in North America, I find the notion of even more border backlog irritating. When driving home from work, the tractor trailers are lined down Hwy 3 intersecting Howard, a good 10 kilometres away from the Ambassador Bridge.

The solution is simple. Americans must die.

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On a related note of the "horrors of lax substance laws" in Canada: Windsor has always been known by the Michigan kids as the place to go drinking when they're of Canadian legal age. When the bars close at 2 am, all of these drunk adolescents pick fights with each other. Most of them are US matchups, no Canadians involved.

So, I was watching a segment on TV about how Detroit mothers are afraid of their kids going to Windsor and getting hurt. This made me laugh out loud. Detroiters are afraid of going to Windsor? Meanwhile, most of the time it's their own citizens picking fights with each other, just in another country.

Heck, we even give them medical aid that they refuse to pay, and still do it anyway.

ROTFL!

Mike S. · 05-08-2003, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by FoE
I understand the Americans worry about more pot moving south across the border, much like we're concerned about handguns moving north across the border. But doesn't the US actually produce more marijuana than Canada anyway?

I don't know for sure but it is pretty big business here on the west coast. We even used to have the occasional radio commercial over here for hydroponics that do everything but explicity state that the equipment is for pot production.

From rough memory: dude in commercial: "Cool man, I totally just increased my crop yield by 50%"

Soyin Milka · 05-08-2003, 10:02 PM

Twelve of the united states have softened their own laws about marijuana possession and use in recent years. Canada is not that marginal in its decision to go ahead with decriminilisation.
Americans can check their own state's laws regarding marijuana possession and use at:
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516

The DEA says upward of 35% of the marijuana consumed by americans is homegrown. Despite having been illegal for over 65 years, marijuana is one of the most lucrative cash crops in the USA (over ten billions US dollars worth yearly according to the DEA).

Canada's marijuana exports to the USA are valued between one and three billions US dollars worth yearly, depending on sources. Here's a report about canadian marijuana by the DEA.
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/intel/...ntellbrief.pdf

Americans still get most of their marijuana from Mexico. The canadian share of that market is comparatively small. I think what worries the american government (and DEA) the most about canadian marijuana is its potency. BC bud and Quebec Gold have a THC content ten times higher than the stuff from the 70s. It sells for ten times more in New York than Montreal too, which makes it really attractive for traffickers.

All that being said, I believe one of the worst thing the american government could do if they want to reduce the amount of marijuana going from Canada to the USA is to impose new trade sanctions against Canada. There seems to be a correlation between unemployment level and illegal economic activities (including marijuana growth).

Soyin

Majestyk · 05-08-2003, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by Soyin Milka
BC bud and Quebec Gold have a THC content ten times higher than the stuff from the 70s.

pffft! So do my lawn clippings. Although, I might have bought a bag or two of lawn clippings in the 70's.

Preventing unscrupulous dealers from taking advantage of novice buyers - one more reason for legalization.

Oxidizing Material · 05-09-2003, 02:53 AM

Uh, that's not really a reason for legalization. That's the "Buyer beware" axiom coming into play.

Jat · 05-09-2003, 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by MattofVA
correction-the story doesn't mention tariffs exactly, but "tighter security" on shipping and border crossing. The article also aptly mentioned that despite our harsher laws in the US, a higher proportion of high school kids down here in the US smoke the wacky tabacky. Who the fuck are we? Any Canadians haev any thoughts on our silly drug laws. I figure two can play at that game, maybe you canucks should start finding ways to interfere in our domestic affairs.

Maybe we should recall all of the Canadian actors in the USA?

Jat · 05-09-2003, 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by Evangelion
You're having a lend of me, right?

Please tell me that you're having a lend of me.

Please.

lend? Yes, it is true that they had tried to do this. It wasn't too long after Sen Jesse Helms had also decalred that Canada was a country of Nazis just because we still did business with Cuba. Senile old fool. If anything we would be Communists. The Nazis and the Communists were enemies.

Evangelion · 05-09-2003, 04:22 AM

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We even used to have the occasional radio commercial over here for hydroponics that do everything but explicity state that the equipment is for pot production.

LOL, we have those too! They're a complete riot!

I always have a good chuckle when I drive past one.

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From rough memory: dude in commercial: "Cool man, I totally just increased my crop yield by 50%"

From rough memory, dude in Australian commercial: "Produce prodigous quantities of marijuana with your new hydroponics equipment!"

King Grinch · 05-09-2003, 07:36 AM

Canada should write its laws as they see fit.

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05-08-2003, 03:17 PM	#11
FoE Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,168	I understand the Americans worry about more pot moving south across the border, much like we're concerned about handguns moving north across the border. But doesn't the US actually produce more marijuana than Canada anyway?

05-08-2003, 10:02 PM	#14
Soyin Milka Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Absurdistan Posts: 299	Twelve of the united states have softened their own laws about marijuana possession and use in recent years. Canada is not that marginal in its decision to go ahead with decriminilisation. Americans can check their own state's laws regarding marijuana possession and use at: http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516 The DEA says upward of 35% of the marijuana consumed by americans is homegrown. Despite having been illegal for over 65 years, marijuana is one of the most lucrative cash crops in the USA (over ten billions US dollars worth yearly according to the DEA). Canada's marijuana exports to the USA are valued between one and three billions US dollars worth yearly, depending on sources. Here's a report about canadian marijuana by the DEA. http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/intel/...ntellbrief.pdf Americans still get most of their marijuana from Mexico. The canadian share of that market is comparatively small. I think what worries the american government (and DEA) the most about canadian marijuana is its potency. BC bud and Quebec Gold have a THC content ten times higher than the stuff from the 70s. It sells for ten times more in New York than Montreal too, which makes it really attractive for traffickers. All that being said, I believe one of the worst thing the american government could do if they want to reduce the amount of marijuana going from Canada to the USA is to impose new trade sanctions against Canada. There seems to be a correlation between unemployment level and illegal economic activities (including marijuana growth). Soyin

05-09-2003, 02:53 AM	#16
Oxidizing Material Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 2,069	Uh, that's not really a reason for legalization. That's the "Buyer beware" axiom coming into play.

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King Grinch Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phila pa Posts: 8	Canada should write its laws as they see fit.

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