Splat

I actually agree with Media-1. I have a theory.

Leviticus tells us that disobedient children should be put to death. My theory is that the kids had disobeyed, and the mother didn't have any stones available, so baking them was the easiest option.

Or maybe God was directly involved. Maybe the kids called a preacher "baldhead" and god didn't have any bears to sick on them, so he told the mother to lock them in the car and go get a haircut.

Media-1, if atheists were as amoral as you're so hamfistedly trying make us out to be, the prisons would be full of us, and the great bus of woe that is human history would have been driven by atheists. Last I heard, we're wildly underrepresented in both the prison population and the history books.

But here's what I know for certain. According to the logic of christianity, all that sick bitch mother has to do to get into heaven is to accept JC as her personal savior, ask his forgiveness, and they hand her the keys to the gate. On the other hand, depending on which keepers of the absolute biblical morality you want to believe, the children may or may not make it to heaven, depending on whether or not they were baptised, saved, or had somehow sinned, if only by being conceived.

Could you PLEASE explain this absolute morality you're so big on?

Oh yeah, I said I agreed with you. That was only in reference to your first line: "God is the solution that provides the least"

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bonduca

I am an atheist. I do not have a "god." Try again.

And you have not answered my question. Would you kill a child, as per the Old Testament, if your infallible god who gives you your moral system asked you to?

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Not Prince Hamlet

Ummm ... Media-1?

Urr ... atheism means that we don't believe in gods. Therefore, if my god told me to kill a child, I'd commit myself because I'd obviously have schizophrenia.

Jeff

bonduca

And how would you come to such a decision? A decision that would defy your god? With your ....MIND?

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Media-1

It is inconceivable to me that my God would ever tell me to do something like that. But, if He did ask me to do something like that I seriously doubt that I have sufficient faith to carry it out. I just can't comprehend anything of that kind.

In one sense, everyone has a god (or some gods) that they worship and obey. Just because someone's god is money, power, or something non-theistic, doesn't mean that they have no gods in their life.

Media-1

bonduca

I have no gods. What part of "I have no god(s)" do you not understand?

I am waiting with great anticipation for you to tell me by what process you would determine the need to defy your god.

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Not Prince Hamlet

Oooh, I saw that one coming a MILE away.

Nice try, that, equating a desire with a "god". Laughable, but a nice try.

But anyway, you've just said that you wouldn't do what God said to do in Hosea. Doesn't that make you (gasp) evil?

Jeff

Not Prince Hamlet

P.S. "non-theistic" means not having gods, by definition. Therefore, you can't have a non-theistic god. It's like a eunuch's gonads.

Jeff

One of the last sane

You haven't read the Old Testament then?

Not Prince Hamlet

"Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished." (Isaiah 13:18)

Hey, Bonduca, does this mean I can go out and ravish some wives? God says it's ok? Can I, can I? Huh? Huh?

Jeff