Ravon

Are all the threads about the Israelis and Palestinians like this. I mean really. You guys spent alot of time arguing over the relative military might of a teenager throwing rocks compared to an israeli in a tank with or without infantry. If someone were throwing rocks at me and I was sitting in my tank I think I would laugh. If I was on the street and someone was firing their tank weapons at me I think I would run away fast or I would die. No matter what you say Lauren or how you say it a tank crew is not in danger of someone throwing rocks. Tanks are big metal things with big kickass guns right?

Sauron

And if there is no threat to RNC conventions, then how come terrorists sometimes can get through to other targets using crowds as a distraction?

In the O'Reilly example, you claimed no threat was trying to slip through. Let's see you proof.

Your hypothetical Israeli tank situation did not contain a threat. If you think otherwise, then point it out.

Ravon

That is exactly the point I want to make. Magic missles that can hit (I think we mean kill) exactly one person are to be found in the same place that suicide bombers get their explosives. No where. In fact, there is very little difference between Israeli missles and Palestinian suicide bombers aside from the method of delivery. They are both deadly. Neither one discriminates between the rich man and the poor or the good man or the bad. They both kill with equal abandon - and so why is one way of killing sanctioned and the other is terrorist. I believe they are both terrorist acts. :banghead:

Bumble Bee Tuna

So you're saying there isn't any terrorist threat to the US? That's a new claim.

Are you saying that if there were a threat, Democrat protesters should be considered terrorists like O'Reilly says?

-B

Loren Pechtel

The Israeli missile usually takes out a commander and likely a few bodyguards. The suicide bomber rarely hits any legitimate targets.

rlogan

The rock-chuckers don't know their "assignment".

How they could accomplish it, when infantry hiding behind a tank is the standard position of an advancing column in the first place, must be one of those miracles of Loren-world.


This is definitely one of the top threads of all time for its category.

James T

What kind of misdirection is this. So you put history to one side and restate to suit your prejudice.

From 7 simple points, I encountered a rather different view, and one that tends to tie more closely to the facts that I am aware of: -

- Israel, with one of the strongest armies in the world, claims the war is defensive. Could Palestine—in one fell swoop—really bring down Israel.

- The Palestinian people are being subjected to an astonishing amount of cruelty, torture, and humiliation.

- The Jewish people have a painful history as persecuted victims. It is mind-boggling to think of a Jewish state as persecutor, but this is now clearly the case.

It's interesting how history comes along with some new old information, and from the jewishworldreview site PLOT TO KILL SIX MILLION... GERMANS, with a rather chilling end "It didn't work out," says Harmatz. "The 300 or 400 we poisoned was nothing compared with what we really wanted to do.".

Sauron

Unless it takes out a bunch of innocent kids. Or the neighbor's house. Or any of a number of other innocent bystanders.

On the contrary. The suicide bomber hits legitimate targets all the time. The problem is merely that you don't consider them legitimate; but since the suicide bomber is practicing asymmetrical warfare, he/she *does* consider them legitimate.

Loren Pechtel

How many rockets go that badly astray?

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Sauron

Enough of them do.

But since you claimed that such events never happened, you must have inventoried all such rocket launches. Let's see your data, Loren.


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As to your question - a bad move. The fact that I understand terrorism (and can accurately describe its place in warfare) doesn't mean that I support it.

I understand and can accurately describe creationism as well - that doesn't mean that I support that, either.