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snoiduspoitus · 02-10-2003, 07:11 PM

I'll have to put in a request for that. Sounds quite interesting.

Kinda got me in the mood to toss on ''The Life of Brian". Classic stuff there.

"The shoooooe ............!!!"

Harpy · 02-11-2003, 03:44 AM

Excellent speech at the end, very nice humanist message.

ju'iblex · 02-11-2003, 03:54 AM

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Ready, Steady, Cook :-D

*shudders*

Born Free · 02-11-2003, 05:56 AM

Shite I missed that. This being due to other half and child watching stargate, star trek and CSI all night every bloody night. Does anyone know if they plan to repeat it??? What channel was it on perhaps it'll be repeated on cable.

Bah.

Leesifer · 02-11-2003, 08:37 AM

Yep, I watched it.

I was glad of the ending showing that ridding the world of religion is exactly what we need!

Although I have to admit those devil eyes gave me the creeps.

Salmon of Doubt · 02-11-2003, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by missus_gumby
the son of god kills himself (with arsenic laden pasta) to rid the world of religion. The world is thus saved.

Damn! I deliberately didn't watch that because I thought it would be a whole load of religious tripe! Shame I missed it really. If it's around on DVD maybe I'll rent it from Blockbuster when it appears.

Captain Pedantic · 02-11-2003, 09:10 AM

I missed it, but I'm betting they'll repeat it someday, so I'm not so fussed.

Sounds like it was cool, though.

worldling · 02-13-2003, 01:56 PM

Yes, it was a brilliant piece of humanistic TV drama. However, I thought the conclusion was rather naive. After god killed himself with the rat-poison-laden pasta dish in front of the whole world, everyone just accepted it and got on with the business of being humans in a godless world. History tells us this would not happen.

The True Believer does not give up his belief in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary. The believers in Steve Baxter (Christ) would soon construct an apologetic to explain away his death in a manner beneficial to them; there would be rumoured sightings of the "dead" Steve; he would appear to believers in dreams; a theology would spring up, and Baxterites would spit into their separate factions.

They would probably fetishize his mode of death, too. Whereas the original Christ died by the crucifix, which became the symbol of Christianity, Steve Baxter suffered death by spaghetti. Baxterite Christians would wear spaghetti necklaces, hang spaghetti from their walls, and kneel before representations of huge forkfulls of spaghetti in church. Italian footballers would make the sign of spaghetti on their chest as they ran on to the pitch. (I know, it's pasta joke).

In other words, thing would pretty much stay the same.

Apart from that, it really was excellent telly.

Ray K · 02-13-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by worldling
The True Believer does not give up his belief in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary. The believers in Steve Baxter (Christ) would soon construct an apologetic to explain away his death in a manner beneficial to them; there would be rumoured sightings of the "dead" Steve; he would appear to believers in dreams; a theology would spring up, and Baxterites would spit into their separate factions.

They would probably fetishize his mode of death, too. Whereas the original Christ died by the crucifix, which became the symbol of Christianity, Steve Baxter suffered death by spaghetti. Baxterite Christians would wear spaghetti necklaces, hang spaghetti from their walls, and kneel before representations of huge forkfulls of spaghetti in church. Italian footballers would make the sign of spaghetti on their chest as they ran on to the pitch. (I know, it's pasta joke).

In other words, thing would pretty much stay the same.

Apart from that, it really was excellent telly.

That might have been a better ending. The viewer can plainly see that the Messiah has died, and always that humanity irrationally refuses to accept that. The spaghetti symbolism would be a good jab at Christianity as well.

Shake · 02-19-2003, 01:17 PM

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I doubt they will ever show it on American TV, but a brilliant message of non-belief has just been broadcast on British prime time TV.

Don't underestimate the producers at FOX!

Seriously, it sounds good, though. Hope it does make it to this side of the pond.

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snoiduspoitus Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,613	The Second Coming I'll have to put in a request for that. Sounds quite interesting. Kinda got me in the mood to toss on ''The Life of Brian". Classic stuff there. "The shoooooe ............!!!"

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02-11-2003, 03:44 AM	#12
Harpy Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chelmsford, South East England Posts: 144	Excellent speech at the end, very nice humanist message.

02-11-2003, 05:56 AM	#14
Born Free Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,177	Shite I missed that. This being due to other half and child watching stargate, star trek and CSI all night every bloody night. Does anyone know if they plan to repeat it??? What channel was it on perhaps it'll be repeated on cable. Bah.

02-11-2003, 08:37 AM	#15
Leesifer Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: England Posts: 257	Yep, I watched it. I was glad of the ending showing that ridding the world of religion is exactly what we need! Although I have to admit those devil eyes gave me the creeps.

02-11-2003, 09:10 AM	#17
Captain Pedantic Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: UK. Posts: 588	I missed it, but I'm betting they'll repeat it someday, so I'm not so fussed. Sounds like it was cool, though.

02-13-2003, 01:56 PM	#18
worldling Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 156	Yes, it was a brilliant piece of humanistic TV drama. However, I thought the conclusion was rather naive. After god killed himself with the rat-poison-laden pasta dish in front of the whole world, everyone just accepted it and got on with the business of being humans in a godless world. History tells us this would not happen. The True Believer does not give up his belief in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary. The believers in Steve Baxter (Christ) would soon construct an apologetic to explain away his death in a manner beneficial to them; there would be rumoured sightings of the "dead" Steve; he would appear to believers in dreams; a theology would spring up, and Baxterites would spit into their separate factions. They would probably fetishize his mode of death, too. Whereas the original Christ died by the crucifix, which became the symbol of Christianity, Steve Baxter suffered death by spaghetti. Baxterite Christians would wear spaghetti necklaces, hang spaghetti from their walls, and kneel before representations of huge forkfulls of spaghetti in church. Italian footballers would make the sign of spaghetti on their chest as they ran on to the pitch. (I know, it's pasta joke). In other words, thing would pretty much stay the same. Apart from that, it really was excellent telly.

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