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Old 05-22-2003, 03:05 PM   #171
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Its unfortunate that people cannot let a debate stand without going out of there way to get someone in trouble who has views opposed to theirs.
Some things aren't debatable, in which case debating them is stupid. In this case, there exist no pejoratives which are adequate to describe the idiocy of the thesis.
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:06 PM   #172
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Actually, I did. Can you give some indication, bearing in mind the sensibilities of the freethinkers here, of what you found that was "pornographic".

It's not that I don't believe you - I just don't recall seeing anything that could be called "pornographic" unless, of course, one had a vivid imagination.

I'm quite willing to accept that I may have missed something truly objectionable.



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I saw things that fell in line with the law. I won't go into detail. I did snoop into his site and all it's free thinking gargon. There were some articles that were fine and looked respectable. It was the Freethinking Myth and similar articles that had questionable images or links to questionable images. i wish I hadn't gone to that area of his site. If I hadn't I would not have made a stink. Couriousity killed the cat.

I cannot think in a liberal way when children are being victimized. If I get drunk enough, I may just post all the abuse I went through since it was asked of PK. But I have no booze, so I doubt there is much hope for that. Also, his little banner on page three or four of the freethinking myth,.."I just had sex with my family..." and then it mocks society's judgement. Well, that alone was enough to make me wanna vomit.
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:08 PM   #173
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Answer this: What is the point of publicly announcing the fact in an atmosphere of debate?
I don't know, but anything which has the potential to produce any discomfiture in the mind of people like Mr. Kelly can't be all bad.
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:16 PM   #174
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Now please do not misunderstand me. I love you females just as much as the next guy.
I doubt that very much.

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But it seems to me that part of the problem with all this pedophilia and child sex stuff can be traced back to the fact many females have eaten themselves so far out of sexual attractiveness that you now feel threatened and are actually competing with children for the affection of males. From this perspective the alleged desire to protect children from sex might actually have more to do with protecting your position within the family against those you view as a threat to your femininity if not potential competition.
I see so now its the females fault that makes it so adults can't have adult/child sex. I suppose you haven't seen a mother grizzly bear protecting her cubs from dangerous predators. Instinctively a human mother and father will protect their children from harm even from predators who try to pass themselves off as harmless sheep. You know this instinct as you experienced it with the predator of your daughter. It's when you started thinking about it that you messed up your natural protective instinct to protect your daughter and had to rationalize it away to align with your thoughts.

I know as a mother I would put myself in harms way to protect my child from predators who want adult/child sex. That can not be misconstrued as protecting my place in the family since I am willing to come to harm in order to protect my child.

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I will bet there is a direct statistical relationship between increased obesity at a societal level and increased instances of adult/child sex.
There is speculation that molested children (adult/child sex as you call it) tend to overeat and do everything they can to make themselves unattractive hoping they will not have to experience any more adult/child sex. Also after a child has experienced adult/child sex the self esteem of a child goes pretty low so that might be why a lot of people who are abused tend to not care about their bodies. Plus eating is another way to try to deal with the emotional trauma a child has to face after having adult/child sex.
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Answer this: What is the point of publicly announcing the fact in an atmosphere of debate?
Fair warning?
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I don't know, but anything which has the potential to produce any discomfiture in the mind of people like Mr. Kelly can't be all bad.
I would ask people to please take to PMs. It made me feel discomfort. I don't want to debate in a police atmosphere.
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Answer this: What is the point of publicly announcing the fact in an atmosphere of debate?
I apologized for this. I typed before I thought. I am the type of person that will not stab a person in the back and run. I face those I accuse, accost, stab, badger, vandalize, etc. head on. I guess I should have said nothing. I'll look in that blasted site once more, but I doubt I will be anymore forgiving of it.
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No blondegoddess, its a disturbing site. I'm not debating that or that his views are skewed. Perhaps I am just prone to paranoia. For you to revisit it, would not be useful or good for your psyche.
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I apologized for this.
You have absolutely nothing to apologize for.
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:29 PM   #180
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Earthgirl, I respectfully direct you to read the entirety of this thread.

With a bucket nearby when you reallize what Pat has actually been advocating, however obfuscated it all is.
Oooooooo! You are quite right. I only read Pat's initial post and could not disagree w/anything. Of couse, now that I have read a bit further I have to say that Pat is, TWISTED, WARPED, and perhaps even from another plantet...
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