HelenM

Hi Sabine

If you want to try to reach them, go ahead.

I've tried something similar before with Christians. If you want to see how nasty some Christians can br, try to convince them that their [human leader] hero is imperfect/has major flaws.

Personally, I decided to 'retire' from doing that - I didn't need to get beat up by other Christians. Life is hard enough without that. The problem is that the kind of people who would unquestioningly follow someone like Benny Hinn and elevate him to almost godlike status seem emotionally unable to deal with who he really is. Like I said, I've been there, done that (with some other human idol of emotionally immature Christians) and if Netscape hadn't erased that e-mail account through recent underuse I'd still have the vitriolic e-mails to prove it.

take care
Helen

Solsticin

I'm STILL laughing at this ridiculous statement. The fact that he said this at ALL proves he is a fraud. He checks them out throughly? Yeah right. Why would you even if you WERE really healing them?

I did notive the 'healed' got a 'cover your ass' psuedo-medical checkup afterwards. Maybe that's what Benny means by thorough?

Me and the wife were visiting my dad and his wife, and at the dinner table I spouted something off about Benny (I think I said what kinda of moron would believe that load of shit, or something to that effect). As it turns out, my dad and her are huge followers of Hinn and give him lots of cash. In short, I know how some of you feel in that area

Yellum Notnef

Why shouldn`t people believe Jesus is performing miracles through Hinn?
All our lives we`re told that theres this magic guy in the sky who does wonderful magic tricks and helps people. We`re also told this magic sky man communicates with and works through priests and other religious leaders.

I don`t ever remember hearing a priest or any other religious leader say that jesus and miracles aren`t real so why shouldn`t all these gullible people belive that Hinn and other healers aren`t helping them?

And if jesus is not healing people than what exactly *is* he doing all day?

Hinn and his ilk are the smartest criminals of all time and they`ll ALWAYS have a market as long as people continue to be taught that Jesus and all that other Christian baloney is real.

I think the most amusing part of the show was the "Christian" watchdog guy who said "We must expose false hope were ever we find it".
He`s certainly not looking very hard.:banghead:

Boro Nut

Instead of following the one true shoe like you?

Boro Nut

CALDONIA

Regardless of his intents, regardless of his morality, regardless of his belief, Benny Hinn is merely following the show business tradition: "Give the audience what it wants." End of story.

Pensee

As an aside, does anybody remember how Dateline said that Benny Hinn modeled his "ministry" after a lady named Kathryn Kuhlman?

When I was about 11, a visiting minister prophesied during revival that I would be the next Kathryn Kuhlman. hehehe

scigirl

Heh it's like the "Well he's not a True Christian TM argument, only. . . ickier. We don't want to claim him either!

Yes, yes you did. Thanks for the kudos, FTR.

The Dateline show also interviewed an organization called the Trinity Foundation (I think that was the name). This is a Christian group who tries to debunk the Benny Hinns of the world. Honestly I bet they hate him worse than we do, because they are religious. You might want to check them out if this stuff interests you.

scigirl

seebs

I hope they don't; if they're Christians, they're supposed to love him, and try to oppose his wrong behaviors without trying to harm him as a person.

A lot of people seem to think the hardest part for Christians is learning to be respectful towards non-believers, but that's nowhere *near* as hard as dealing with wrong-headed believers.

scigirl

seebs,

I doubt they used the word "hate." I guess what I meant is - they are more disgusted with his behavior than we atheists are because he is doing it in the name of religion (and atheists don't really care about saving the reputation of religion so much!)

Hope that makes sense.

scigirl

seebs

Well, from my own experience, it can be very hard *not* to hate people like Hinn. It's an ideal, not a commonplace reality.