Amos

Theist and relativist.

I hold that moral codes are relative within each civilization (cultural relativism) and that nothing else matters within the tribe if you pay your taxes.

It is based on there only being one ultimate truth which is beyond the reach of objective values and that man made objective values are subjective towards this desired end and therefore relative on their own.

For example, the laws were given to Moses not to stop sin but for the convictin of sin (it was Jewish and not civil law that convicted Jesus). This means that sin is good and desired but in effort to make sin known a stream of consciousness is needed against which sin is made known.

This makes the stream of consciousness intuitly subjective to the objectivity of the moral code and the violation of this moral code is through the intuit conviction of the violators (written as if in stone upon the hearts of men). It can now also be said that the forbidden fruit is made attractive to encourage temptation.

Amos

pug846

In English, that means he is a moral relativist.

excreationist

It means doing what directly gives me the greatest benefits or the least suffering.
So it is direct selfishness.
I think altruism is still selfish too in a way because you would be trying to satisfy your "connectedness" craving.

phaedrus

phenomenological hermeneutic

Pint0 Xtreme

Agnostic/Atheist - Ethical Absolutist

Though I may not believe in some superior being or God, I am not a materialist. There are much evidence for other than natural properties and I personally think that naturalism in any form (Materialism, Scientism) is really just a very narrow minded way of thinking.

I believe there is far more than meets the eye but such may not necessarily point to the theistic god we have all here come to love.

Bill Snedden

Agnostic/atheist - moral objectivist

Regards,

Bill Snedden

Gurdur

More or less hard-line atheist.

There are objective elements in morality, but on the whole at the top level it becomes an objectively-influenced subjective morality.

I am certainly not a moral relativist, but I am fairly pragmatic.

Let's not forget social epistemology BTW, which plays a role of sorts in morality.

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Zar

Atheist. Relativist.

However, there are persistent realities that are so widely dispersed that they take on a quasi-objective appearance, to wit, our common humanity (and increasing awareness of this commonality) and a wide recognition of the Golden Rule. "Tit for Tat" is as universal as ideas come.

Bill Snedden

This is pretty much my meaning when I describe myself as a moral objectivist...

Regards,

Bill Snedden

Dr. Retard

Atheist.

I think there is an objective matter of fact as to whether one moral rule is better than another, and I think the answer lies in which moral rule better advances our subjective interests in a way agreeable to all (at some level). Objectivist in some sense, subjectivist in another.