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Old 01-02-2004, 05:52 PM   #31
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16 pages and counting. When I am done I will try to have cut it back down to 15 or so.

Again, I enjoyed PZs web site, and will visit again soon.
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Love the St. Augustine quote, pz. Is that from Confessions?
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Love the St. Augustine quote, pz. Is that from Confessions?
"De Genesi ad litteram libri duodecim" (The Literal Meaning of Genesis). I haven't read it myself, it's just one of those widely quoted things.
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"De Genesi ad litteram libri duodecim" (The Literal Meaning of Genesis). I haven't read it myself, it's just one of those widely quoted things.
A slightly larger exerpt is on the NAiG web pages:

http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/saintaugustine.htm

As recounted in his Confessions, Augustine was lead to reject the Manichees sect when they failed to resolve the conflict their teachings had with the math predictions of astronomical events. Augustine discussed this in Book Five of the Confessions.
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Would you believe I've now got a Chick defender leaving messages on my site?
Just out of curiousity, I went to that guy's web site and found such gems as this: "Disagree with the methods or the literature if you will, but don't act like a leftist commie and simply attack whatever seems to threaten your little comfort zone."

This guy seems to have just as much of a hard-on for Catholic-bashing as Chick does. About half his material is devoted to bashing the Vatican, which he refers to as the "Great Whore."
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Old 01-04-2004, 01:29 PM   #36
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Just out of curiousity, I went to that guy's web site and found such gems as this: "Disagree with the methods or the literature if you will, but don't act like a leftist commie and simply attack whatever seems to threaten your little comfort zone."

This guy seems to have just as much of a hard-on for Catholic-bashing as Chick does. About half his material is devoted to bashing the Vatican, which he refers to as the "Great Whore."
He brags about being "pro-Chick". He doesn't seem to be aware in the slightest of how deeply stupid Chick's hate-mongering tracts are. It's actually rather sad -- he seems moderately literate, and his IQ probably isn't boinging around in the below average range, but he's so committed to his blinkered worldview that he won't honestly look at any evidence. Another brain goes to waste due to the toxic influence of a twisted form of Christianity.
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"Nobody seems to mind that there are dinosaurs all over the poster interacting with humans, and human ancestors?"

Y-Y-You mean...the Flintstones aren't real?

Heh heh...maybe christian schools should apply for gov't funding to show "The Flintstones" as educational materials in their science classes.

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Heh heh...maybe christian schools should apply for gov't funding to show "The Flintstones" as educational materials in their science classes.
Carl Baugh shows them in his double-wide museum as examples of how dinosaurs and humans lived together before the flood.
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Carl Baugh shows them in his double-wide museum as examples of how dinosaurs and humans lived together before the flood.
This just shows that you can't be sarcastic about creationists. No matter how loony your caricature of them is, somewhere there is a real-life version doing just what you tried to overblow.
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While we can look at their arguments and websites and such, and dismiss them as nothing to take seriously, at the same time someone else probably is looking at the same material, convinced the info contained within is actual facts, and unfortunately the tendancy to believe the first thing you read and not research further to verify is a very common one. So while the creationist view is a laughable one, always keep in mind that way too many people see it as mainstream "science". And that's the danger...and that's why their constant repetitive bad arguments should always be confronted, rather than just ignored, because if not countered, they appear to be accepted facts.
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