KnightWhoSaysNi

The problem here again is that merely asserting something as truth does not make it true. A devout Muslim, Mormon, Jehovah's Witness, and others would insist till they're blue in the face that they "know" the truth and that those who are not of their faith will be damned to Hell. Why should we treat your position differently?

Okay, let's play around with your statement a bit and pretend a devout Muslim approached you and said this:

Now picture yourself how you'd think if a devout Muslim told this to you. After you've done that, you would then get a pretty good idea of how we think of the claims you had made.

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Bible Humper

Hello Gemma, thanks for the explanation.

I've got two more questions, if you don't mind.

First, I thought that the vow of chastity came long before you could even start to think of becoming a Sister. Since it actually doesn't come until later, does this mean that Sisters don't have to be virgins? I thought that they certainly had to be.

Second, "stability/enclosure", is this the vow to become an anchorite?

Gemma Therese

Thank you for the questions.

There is no "rule" that says one must be a virgin when entering a religious community, but it is certainly desired.. Elizabeth Ann Seton was widowed with five children when she founded the Sisters of Charity in the US. But one's life up to the point of your enetering is certainly taken into account. One's ability to live out each vow is very important. Although she was always a virgin, Edith Stein (whose feast is today!) was a vocal athiest before her conversion to Catholicism and entrance into Carmel.

As to your second question, nuns are not anchorites (or, more appropriately, anchoresses). Anchorites live by a rule of their own creation in total isolation. While nuns live independent from the outside world, they live by their order's rule (Carmeilte, Benedictine, etc) and they live in a community.

I hope this helps!

Gemma Therese

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Walter_Mitty

Gemma: still waiting for responses to my earlier posts.

I guess the Lord does indeed move in mysterious ways.

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bonduca

Anyone who presumes to comes to an atheist forum to preach, pray, and tell us we are going to hell may likely find us a rough crowd indeed.

I've gone easy on Gemma Therese simply because I've taken a strange liking to her, the way I have those Fisherman's Friend cough drops.

Bible Humper

Hello Gemma,

It certainly did, thanks!

Gemma Therese

Splashing -

Here are some orders I'm interested in:

Holy Adoration Sisters (Pink Sisters)

<a href="http://www.svd.org/AdorSister.html" target="_blank">http://www.svd.org/adorsister.html</a>

Sisters, Servwnts of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (IHMs)

<a href="http://www.ihmimmaculata.org/default.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ihmimmaculata.org/default.htm</a>

Passtionists

<a href="http://www.ewtn.com/religiouslife/women/sister17.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ewtn.com/religiouslife/women/sister12.htm</a>

Discalced Carmelites

<a href="http://hometown.aol.com/siouxcitycarmel" target="_blank">http://hometown.aol.com/siouxcitycarmel</a>

Gemma Therese

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Samhain

1. I'd like to take the time to point out this post of yours Gemma. You'd do quite well to remember those words yourself.

2. Your posts are nonsense.

3. If you have nothing reasonable or rational to say about your faith, then it means nothing.

4. Once again, may I suggest this nonsense be moved to RRP? Such foolishness does not deserve to stay here IMHO.

Brahma's atheist

My relatives in India are probably putting in a prayer for me to Lord Murugan at the temple my Grandfather built(it's a really nice temple with a fantastic statue of Sri M.). Is Gemma praying to him or her god? I don't think I am susceptible to the actions of your god what with me being born a Hindu. So I hope you don't waste any more of your prayer quota on me or other non Christians.

Brahma's atheist

Nuns, the acceptable face of cultism.

Of course if there was evidence there wouldn't be any atheists. No need for this web site. We would all be fighting each other over who's god was best.Oh yeah, people do that anyway except it would be different if the gods were involved.

Especially if he has palsy or is nuts, wouldn't know which way he was moving.