Amen-Moses

It wouldn't matter how much area it had, without any depth it would simple not be detectable to any higher dimensional object, energy included.

You do realise that energy (as we know it) is 4-dimensional?

In a simlar way any hypothetical 3-dimensional object would be undetectable to 4-dimensional sensors and by extension any 5-dimensional being would most probably be oblivious to light, heat, mass or any other product of 4-dimensions that we take for granted.

It may only be in theoretical fields like QM that other dimensional objects can be approached, maybe the "missing mass" could be accounted for in this way?

Amen-Moses

Pomp

Gemma Therese,

To argue with atheists -- it's fun, it strengthens my faith, and frankly, an all-Williams final is boring.

The problem, as many of us see it, is that you are not actually arguing with any atheists. To most of us, an argument entails presenting evidence or logical proofs in support of an assertion. You're making the assertions but failing to provide any arguments to back them.

Brian63

A hearty "Amen!" to that. Hewitt is a great one to watch though.

Brian

tronvillain

Amen-Moses:
It is only your assertion that a two dimensional object could not interact with a three dimensional object. There is nothing apparently logically necessary about it.

Answerer

Guys, I got one simple question, where is luvluv? I don't see him responding to any of us.

Pomp

It's just possible that luvluv has something more interesting to do with his weekend than try to convince us that Yahweh exists. I can't think of anything more fun than this but some people, you know?

karlydee

no he/she is not kidding

In fact, it might do you some good to research the pantheon of the fertile crescent to understand exactly where hebrew mythology, and by extension Xian mythology originated.

Haven't you ever wondered why the god of the hebrews in the OT changes his name a bit of the way through from [El]ohim to Yahweh [YHWH}?

Haven't you ever wondered why most of the hebrew names related to god end in -el as in

Rachael
Michael
Joel
Emmanuel
and lets not forget the angels

Azrael
Gabriel

It is because El was the father god in a pantheon of gods that predate Hebrew mythology

other word to search for:

Asherah

Heylel or Helel - literally translates as the morning star, the morning star is the one that brings the first light --- lightr bringer --- LUCIFER

the only reference to Lucifer in the entire bible

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!


uses the word 'heylel'

01966 heylel {hay-lale'}
1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer

El is the father god he had children, dawn and dusk [Shachar and Shalim], by mating with Asherah and Rohmaya.

Helel or Heylel is the son of the dawn (Shachar).

YHWH - was originally a son of El, later as the he usurped the number one status, and took his mother Asherah as his wife.


here is a web site full of archaelogical data concerning the beginnings of Israel, the bible etc.

<a href="http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/thera/canaan.html" target="_blank">http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/thera/canaan.html</a>

Amen-Moses

Well if you can come up with any mechanism by which it could happen then I am all ears (or eyes in this case ). Hell if you could there might even be a nobel prize in it for you.

All you have to do is find a way of measuring the height of something that has no height. To me that is inherently logially impossible but maybe you are using some other definition of logic!

Amen-Moses

luvluv

Correct, Pompous. An ex-girlfriend-ish type girl and an old college buddy rolled into town on the same weekend so I was catching up with the one and entertaining the other.

Uh, not much was addressed to me. For Amen Moses suppose I can see why someone could not see something with no depth, but why couldn't a being that lived in ten dimensions not be able to see beings that had depth? Perhaps four dimensions are the minimum requirement for detection? (I still don't see how this would be a problem for an Omnipotent Being.)

Lady Shea

To my knowledge, only Muslims claim that Allah and Yahweh are the same deity. Exclusive Yahweh worshippers pretty much solidly deny that assertion. Although you could probably present a case for Islam as an offshot of Judaism, you could not make such a case for Christianity and Islam. Islamic beliefs contradict the major belief statement of Christianity, namely the supernatural, superhuman, quality of Christ. No resolution can be made between Christianity and Islam on that point alone. On that question, Yahweh and Allah are diametrically opposed, so they can't be the same Person.

Viti

It doesn't matter who "claims" what luvluv...historically and culturally they are the same deity.

Please see karlydee's links or study the history of the area and its people (I like <a href="http://www.fsmitha.com)" target="_blank">http://www.fsmitha.com)</a>