Typhon

Haha, nice one Mageth.

You beat me to it.

I was just about to remark how it was hardly our fault that 90% of what we know about reality is a direct challenge to Christianity.

.T.

Odemus

I really hope no one takes personal offense to the antagonistic demeanor I used in approaching this topic If you do I sincerely apologize.My intention is not ultimately to anger.

God bless,

Jacob

Typhon

You don't read well do you?

Silly sod. You honestly think that simply because I'm going to die, some day quite soon or distant, in the foreseeable future, I would want to hurry up and expedite that process? I enjoy living, hold my life to have value and meaning to both myself and my loved ones, and extend the same basic philosophy to others.

Again I hope that you keep away from sharp objects and sundry items which might cause damage to yourself or the rest of us.

.T.

Viti

This is the only life I have and I enjoy my loved ones in it. Therefore it is bad if I or they die when some theist decides to fly the plane I am on into a big building or blow up the restaurant a family member is eating in.

What is so difficult for you to understand Odemus?

Other social animals, specifically mammals, mourn the loss of mates or members of their group and some have a primitive set of society standards...yet as far as we can tell they have no concept of "meaning" or God.

Typhon

It's not that, but thank you all the same. It's just that such an approach, in the manner you have at least chosen here, makes us quick to dismiss you and suspect that you haven't anything worthwhile to say.

We're always happy to answer questions, when they are put forth in a genuine and friendly manner. It doesn't shock or offend to jump onto the forum and with a rather antagonistic manner, loudly proclaim or question why we have such a forum at all. Trust us, this is neither new hat nor valuable to our discourse and goals.

And again, it's a question that has been well answered already. Browse through some of the older threads <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=56" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=52" target="_blank">here</a>, and you'll find most of your questions have already been well answered, and most of your claims debunked as well.

I wish you happy and fruitful reading.

.T.

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Autonemesis

Because Christians are often particularly annoying twits, above and beyond the call of twit-dom. I seem often to be surrounded by a sea of neo-twits, who want nothing more than for me to assimilate to their twitgeist. I am twit and tired of it, and I'm not going to twake it anymore.

Samhain

What's your point, exactly? How many of us go into a church or a mosque and tell everyone that their dumb for believing in ridiculous fairy tales? You're doing just about the same thing as that now to us. Just because this challenges the views of christianity does not mean that anyone has to take up that challenge. Tolerance would hold that we would allow that those who believe differently from us to continue to believe as they do without trying to constantly evangelize them. If theists, particularly those of JC leanings, would keep their beliefs out of politics/government, media, etc. and stop trying to shove logically fallacious ideas down the throats of the masses we would not have a problem, would we? Tolerance would hold that we live peacably and without prejudice or hate towards those with different worldviews, and keep our own worldviews out of the lives of others. I truly think that if theists did that, atheists would truly be a very quiet bunch.

So, once again, did you have a point, or not?

Synaesthesia

Is it nonsensical to marvel at the fact that billions of adults have imaginary friends? Why should we not have an interest in the epistemology which leads people to die for things that don't exist?

Autonemesis

If you'd keep your errors to yourself, and not put them on the money, in the patriotic rituals, in the classroom, in the laws, and in the drawers in hotel rooms, to name a few, I'd not care. When you force it into my view, I reserve the right to object and to criticize it, denounce it and refute it.

Synaesthesia

Kind Bud,

I think it is our right to be skeptical or interested in any idea, forced on us or not. Of course we must be tactful, but we are under no obligation to avoid offensive truths.