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08-25-2002, 08:09 PM
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Pledge use in citizenship ceremonies?
Random thought on Pledge Patriotism: Is the Pledge of Allegiance used in US citizenship ceremonies? Is there some other form of oath taken? How "Godless" is the ceremony?
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08-25-2002, 08:56 PM
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<a href="http://www.us-immigration.com/information/citizenship_tutorial/oath.html" target="_blank">http://www.us-immigration.com/information/citizenship_tutorial/oath.html</a>
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08-25-2002, 10:29 PM
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After living in the US for 30 years, I finally became a citizen in July of 2000. When we all had to rise, raise our right hands and pledge, I just didn't say the last four words. Nobody noticed, hell, I was the only one there out of 700 who spoke English!
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08-26-2002, 02:03 PM
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Hmph. The one for the civil service expressly says you can scratch out SHMG and the oath remains valid. The other change you can make is to say "affirm" rather than "swear", to make room for some other philosophical/religious objections. These are the only changes one is allowed to make; says so right on the oath. Perhaps the citizenship one is enforced this way "de facto", despite the written part not saying so. If it isn't, that's as bluntly unfair as any of the other issues debated here; then if you're an atheist, you can't even be naturalized.
 [ August 26, 2002: Message edited by: 4th Generation Atheist ]</p> |
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