Keith Russell

Crocodile asked:

"I wonder how your "soul" knew where your body was going to be born?"

Sorry, Croc. I don't understand the question.

What does the word 'soul'mean?

Also, please explain what you mean by 'knowing where my body was going to be born'--the question is conjugated correctly, but as far as I can tell, it contains no valid concepts.

Keith.

Powerfull Voices

Are you sure about that??? And Please don't be bias!!!

crocodile deathroll

Well the I do not generally like using the word "soul" as it conjures up too many religious connotations By the soul I generally just narrow it down to "your subjective reality". That perceived sphere of reality that surrounds you when you are consciously aware of it.

Why did it single out one particular place and time in the universe to generate your life into existence?

A perfectly valid question

I am inclined to speculate that there is only the one subjective reality in the universe just like there is only one objective reality. The universe only really requires one at any one point in time to be aware of its own existence. And as we are part to the one interlaced whole a process of gestalt switching one conscious <a href="http://alcor.concordia.ca/~vpetkov/time.html" target="_blank">world line </a> to the next next world line, somewhere somewhen else.

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Heraclitus Nietzsche

I have thought alot about the question: "Is there life after [physical] death"?

Us human beings have never known our own "non-existence". Therefore, we cannot comprehend ourselves as not existing.

Therefore, it is quite easy for us to imagine physical death as not being the absolute END of ourselves.

But, our experience of our current existence can never be sufficient proof that our existence will continue forever. There is only the HOPE that we will continue to have consciousness AFTER our physical death - a hope that is based only on our will to believe that an incomprehensible event (i.e. our own NON-existence) will NOT occur.

I think Arthur Schopenhauer said it best: "When we die we will become what we were before we were born."

There is truly nothing more to say further about this topic.

crocodile deathroll

I keep on echoing that point myself. When we die we foget that we were ever born in the first place.

Keith Russell

Crocodile:

Whatever.

I don't speak that language. (And honestly, I have no desire to learn.)

Keith.

crocodile deathroll

Keith:

For any reality to be tangible, subjective reality is necessary. For instance there is an objective reality of the Plutonian icy landscape, but because there is no astronaut standing on its surface or even an unmanned probe there to observe it then it may as well not exist.
An artist may render some image of what a Plutonian landscape may look like, but that may be very different from reality when a probe lands on its ice surface and beams its images back to earth.

Oxymoron

That wasn't the point, though: there is no "we" capable of forgetting because "we" are deceased, we are no more, we have ceased to be, we are pushing up the daisies, we are an ex-person.

Powerfull Voices

I know this was a pretty simple statement but in all this "high minded" yet basicly meaningless talk would anyone like to consider it?

Jamie_L

Actually, it seemed like a rhetorical statement.

If you want discussion, let's be specific. I hate being accused of making the wrong assumptions about what other people believe. Who rose from the dead, and what is "maybe even the most historically reliable book of antiquity in existence"?

That may sound like a dumb question, but you'd be surprised how often one gets jumped on around here for making what seem like reasonable assumptions like these.

Jamie