peacenik

Demanding the exposure of WMD's now as well as not lying about allegations is not contradictory at all. According to the Bush administration, we had strong and undeniable evidence that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. If that was the case, then why haven't we been able to uncover them. I mean evidently we had enough intelligence to allow us to locate where Saddam was and carry out a "decapation strike." We have been able to find other things in Iraq. The fact that we haven't found the weapons yet exposes Bush as a liar because it shows that we in fact didn't have hard evidence of WMD's; instead we were merely acting on a hunch, which is tantamount to both a war crime and an impeachable offense in my opinion. It is certainly much more serious than Bill Clinton's lies about recieving a blow job for crying out loud!!

Mark

It's a little early IMO to start demanding proof for these WMDs when 1) the UN team couldn't find them in a month and 2) the US and UK couldn't prove their claims when they weren't in Iraq.

However, given the recent news that the US and UK are sending in their own team, option 3) is also valid - give them time to plant some

peacenik

I don't think it's too early at all. Bush and his administration claimed that they had credible and undeniable evidence that Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction. If so, then they must have known where the weapons were located. Well, now they have control of virtually the entire nation, yet they still haven't uncovered any WMD's. Yet, now we are to believe that they can't find them? And we are to believe that the same regime that was characterized as being so evil that a pre-emptive attack by our troops was justified in order to spare us from another "inevitable" 911, was kind and considerate enough to not use WMD's against our invading troops. Well I say enough is enough. Bush and his administration can't have it both ways!

I guess they'll expect us to believe that they haven't planted the WMD's when they "just happen" to discover the WMD's in a couple of weeks after the some shipments from Nevada and various other secret facilities have docked in Um Qasr. Or perhaps, an even better possibility is that Colin Powell will present another forged document as well as other "unspecified" intelligence before the U.N. Security Counsel that "proves" that the WMD's were taken in by Syria and then we'll be off to the races again.

Yeah, we're going to colonize the entire Middle East!

HaysooChreesto!

While I wouldn't put it past the Bush admin (or any government for that matter) to plant WMD's, I don't think it's very likely. After the post 9/11 anthrax mailings, Bush and company could have easily made up "proof" that the strains were from Iraq and there would've been no bothering with trying to find proof now.

Mark

British Minister of defence said yesterday that there are no plans to attack Iran or Syria (yet )

Kosh

I got yer WMD right here

I suppose these were just food prep trucks for school fieldtrips?

peacenik

This "find" of alleged "mobile labs" that just happen to be buried(usually things that are buried in the ground aren't considered to be mobile ) provides no more evidence then the "find" last week that turned out to be pesticides.

Its just another example of spin from Centcom:banghead:

Kosh

You're actually the Iraqi Information Minister, aren't you?

Gurdur

Wrong.
What you have at most -- if confirmed --- is the means to make some kinds of WMD's, but you do not have WMD's as such as yet.

Given that the actual existence of WMD's has been claimed by the USA admin, this find is not yet impressive.

What will be interesting is to find out how long the "mobile laboratories" have been buried; not that it makes any real difference either way, but it will be an interesting if minor point.

Kosh

If the police enter a house on suspicion of narcotics, and find narcotics paraphenalia, should they conclude there is no drug activity going on there?

Perhaps you could speculate for us just why the Iraqis would have mobile labs for producing WMDs if they aren't trying to produce them?