Philosoft

So Amos, assuming I understand (a dubious proposition), if I died an atheist tomorrow, God would need to implant into my mind/soul/whatever 1) the true knowledge that God exists; 2) the knowledge that my afterlife sans God will be inescapably less fulfilling than said afterlife with God. Is this accurate?

Amos

So Jobar, the only reason why we, as humans, do not have a free will is because of our ego identity wherein we think we exist. Our ego identity is our persona (mask) wherein we pretend to be something, or somebody other than who we really are. Our soul is our "woman identity" and our ego is our "human identity." In our volition will we are divided between these two identities with our womanity being more submissive but ever persitent.

Our womanity (soul) is the Alpha with which we began our journey of life already from within the womb of man. To this we add our daily rounds of samsara (or daily masses) and if we do come full cirlce in our journey of life we will end up in the Omega and will know and understand everything in between the Alpha and Omega. Our Alpha is our intuition or memory of our soul (Alpha, womanity and soul is the same thing).

So what is left for us beside being God? Our personality is needed to give character to God because if I am God without me God could no longer be.

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Amos

If you died tomorrow they would arrange for a funeral and that would be the end for you.

If somebody who claims to be a Christian would die tomorrow the same thing would happen to that person.

Our God is the God of the living and not of the dead.

Philosoft

Um, how can I have a "state of mind" if I have no mind?

Amos

You have to be alive to have a state of mind. By state of mind I mean that we must have a conceptual understanding of things.

Ron Singh

Kind of. Because your existence is temporal, you can only experience God limitedly. Existing itself is experiencing God, although all things experience him in different gradient.

Amos

The difference is in the understanding of who you are. In your left brain you are temporal and therefore limited in your knowledge of God while in your right brain you are eternal and therefore God. To "know thyself" is to know God--or have the mind of God which is our mandate in the bible.

In the strict definition all Christian should have the mind of God.

Philosoft

I presume your implication is that I can experience God unlimitedly once my existence is non-temporal?

<strong> Your playing fast-and-loose with definitions is making my head hurt. So, rather than consciously experience God as an entity, I experience God as fundamentally equivalent to existence, in spite of my claims to the contrary? How would I distinguish God in this way from no-God?

Philosoft

You really should stick to mysticism, Amos. Metaphysics and science don't combine very well.

<strong> Right. Now what does this all have to do with whether I will know the difference between experiencing and not experiencing God.

Amos

Well if you would ask a medical student to examine "The creation of Adam" by Michelangelo he would tell you that the backdrop of the painting is the human skull and the rest shows the intricate details within the human skull. Adam was painted outside of this backdrop and maybe that is why you don't seem to know who is pulling the strings in your life.