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Old 09-08-2002, 07:07 PM   #61
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<strong>Waiiiit a minute.

If an atheist would not be allowed to judge him for fear of being negatively biased, wouldn't that apply in the reverse to christian judges?

[ September 08, 2002: Message edited by: Doubting Didymus ]</strong>
Note the "Who's familiar with his work" (and the backgrounds of it)
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Old 09-08-2002, 07:36 PM   #62
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Yes, but the same would apply to any christian judge "who is familiar with his work".

Judges do not need to be unaware of the person to judge them. If the president of america were to be forced before an american criminal court (we can only hope), the judge would be familiar with him and his work. So what?
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I think it's much mroe likely that he'll be up before a Christian judge of some stripe or other. Americans don't like having atheists in high places.

I wonder what proportion of American judges are atheists. Anybody know?
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<strong>I think it's much mroe likely that he'll be up before a Christian judge of some stripe or other. Americans don't like having atheists in high places.
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Yeah, well, Americans suck.
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Old 09-08-2002, 09:15 PM   #65
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And here's me thinking God's an American. Oh well.
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<strong>And here's me thinking God's an American. Oh well.</strong>
That would explain quite a bit, actually.
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It looks like Hovind is getting a jury trial. I'd be the last person to deny him a jury trial, but that combined with the fact that he wants to represent himself worries me some. He could downplay the whole thing as a minor incident of raised tempers, based on my reading of the police report. That, combined with emphasis on how he is doing God's work -- which, being Hovind, he will assuredly bring up at the trial -- could make the jury more sympathetic to him.

Is anyone out there covering these events in detail? Right now, my only sources of information are the Escambia county site and this thread.


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<strong>It looks like Hovind is getting a jury trial. I'd be the last person to deny him a jury trial, but that combined with the fact that he wants to represent himself worries me some. He could downplay the whole thing as a minor incident of raised tempers, based on my reading of the police report. That, combined with emphasis on how he is doing God's work -- which, being Hovind, he will assuredly bring up at the trial -- could make the jury more sympathetic to him.
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Maybe the prosecution and judge will be really good. I mean, Hovind is an idiot. I doubt he could do a good job of defending his actions.
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I am not a lawyer (nor do I play one on TV) but, there are still a few questions in my mind over some of the circumstances.

First, Hovind is not the registered owner of the property that the incident occured on, and so I wonder about his claim (in the arrest report) that he is the owner. This brings to mind Hovind's attepmt to declare bankruptcy in order to avoid the IRS. Is Kent trying to hide assets from the court, and the IRS? Anyone want to make a follow up call to the IRS?

Secondly, I wonder why he wanted to property vacated? This is not material, but it could sway the jury one way or another. For example, he could claim that he thought that the tenants engaged in an illeagal, or immoral activity.
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Maybe the prosecution and judge will be really good. I mean, Hovind is an idiot. I doubt he could do a good job of defending his actions.</strong>
Well, he manages to convince a fair few of creationism because he gets a chance to talk to them uninterrupted. Even manages to convince them that all this evidence for evolution is actually evidence for creation. He may be an idiot, but he's a persuasive one.
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