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Old 07-26-2003, 08:30 AM   #91
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Originally posted by Rational BAC I think that the word down from the Bush administration is "take no prisoners" =-----------"Dead men tell no tales"

Of course they could have been taken alive (unless they decided to commit suicide).
Also to consider is the possibility that at the time it wasn't known for sure if it was Saddam's sons fighting in the first place. Perhaps if it was known with 100% certainty what was at stake a more careful and patient seige would have been taken, but I think the military in charge took the right decision considering some soldiers were being shot.
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Look at the bright side. We may yet catch Saddam Hussein (again I think orders will be to make sure he is taken dead) We may yet find WMD even though we wasted this golden opportunity.
Are you being sarcastic? I think its pretty obvious by now that there aren't WMD.

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Also to consider is the possibility that at the time it wasn't known for sure if it was Saddam's sons fighting in the first place. Perhaps if it was known with 100% certainty what was at stake a more careful and patient seige would have been taken, but I think the military in charge took the right decision considering some soldiers were being shot.
But it was suspected which is why they were there in the first place. They were given a tipoff to a man who is now $30 million richer for it. In fact, since they were initially going in there with the suspicion that this was Uday and Qusai, it makes the fact that they didn't use non-lethal methods such as tear gas even more bizarre to me.
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Also to consider is the possibility that at the time it wasn't known for sure if it was Saddam's sons fighting in the first place. Perhaps if it was known with 100% certainty what was at stake a more careful and patient seige would have been taken, but I think the military in charge took the right decision considering some soldiers were being shot. Are you being sarcastic? I think its pretty obvious by now that there aren't WMD.

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Mostly sarcastic.

I don't think the Bush administration wanted Hussein's sons going on record saying there never were any WMD that hadn't been previously destroyed many years before.

Again, I think the orders from the top are-------kill anybody who might really know something-------since the truth might prove embarassing.
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This entire thread is rife with conspiracy theories predicated on a misunderstanding of the Military's present Mission in Iraq. Our forces are charged with the rapid restoration of order and complete annihilation of resistance. The strategic value of past historical intelligence data is not a primary objective.

And Koy your pretty much stuffed fulla than a XMAS Turkey

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This entire thread is rife with conspiracy theories predicated on a misunderstanding of the Military's present Mission in Iraq. Our forces are charged with the rapid restoration of order and complete annihilation of resistance. The strategic value of past historical intelligence data is not a primary objective.

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I'd suggest you take a look in this thread. Intelligence gathering on WMDs and terrorists (both things that, based on the claims of the Bush Administration, Saddam's sons would know about) atually was a primary objective according to Donald Rumsfeld.
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I'd suggest you take a look in this thread. Intelligence gathering on WMDs and terrorists (both things that, based on the claims of the Bush Administration, Saddam's sons would know about) atually was a primary objective according to Donald Rumsfeld.
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they were not taken alive for the same reason hitler wasn't.
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they were not taken alive for the same reason hitler wasn't.
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they were not taken alive for the same reason hitler wasn't.
Huh? They committed suicide?

They must have shot themselves over 20 times each and cut big Xs in their own chests (wounds according to AP; one was even determined to have been killed by blunt object to the head). I thought it was the TOW anti-tank weapon that killed them, why were there 20 bullet holes in the corpses? Seems to be kind of brutal? "Hey, I think I saw him move." *Budadadadadadadada-blam* "Hey, he moved while I was shooting him." *Budadadadadadada-blam* [repeat for other corpses]

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Huh? They committed suicide?

They must have shot themselves over 20 times each and cut big Xs in their own chests (wounds according to AP; one was even determined to have been killed by blunt object to the head). I thought it was the TOW anti-tank weapon that killed them, why were there 20 bullet holes in the corpses? Seems to be kind of brutal? "Hey, I think I saw him move." *Budadadadadadadada-blam* "Hey, he moved while I was shooting him." *Budadadadadadada-blam* [repeat for other corpses]

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What never heard of suicide via authority? I recall that OK's purty backward but that's gotta take the cake.

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