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Bubba · 05-11-2003, 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by NialScorva
If left to talk for more than 10 minutes, *every* creationist and IDiot sounds exactly alike. The lack of originality in the sect never ceases to amaze me. I would like to give new creationists I meet the benefit of the doubt and let them have a word, but within seconds they trod down the same predictable path. A path established by people like Safarti saying the same thing over thousands and thousands of times.

I don't deny the Safarti/Socrates connection, but using a "sound-alike" argument one could argue that there's only 3 actual creationists in existence, and the rest are just psuedonyms.

An Excellent point. I'd like to read one of their "accademic" journals to see if there are any new arguements...:banghead:

Bubba

pz · 05-11-2003, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by NialScorva
If left to talk for more than 10 minutes, *every* creationist and IDiot sounds exactly alike.

This is true. One of the hard things about answering TO Feedback is that we see the same questions over and over and over again, often verbatim and taken straight from the pages of AiG or the dustjacket of Wells' or Behe's books -- or worse, some bit of nonsense written 40 years ago and parroted endlessly by the marching morons of the creationist movement.

Kevbo · 05-11-2003, 09:10 AM

You're right, that isn't conclusive evidence at all. I'm absolutely convinced that Socrates is Sarfati, though, and that dave--f is either a huge fan of AiG or someone who works there.

NialScorva · 05-11-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by pz
This is true. One of the hard things about answering TO Feedback is that we see the same questions over and over and over again, often verbatim and taken straight from the pages of AiG or the dustjacket of Wells' or Behe's books -- or worse, some bit of nonsense written 40 years ago and parroted endlessly by the marching morons of the creationist movement.

I'm sure they're a pain in the ass to write, but they are just so enjoyable to read. I've several friends who aren't interested in the creation/evolution debate who will read the feedback when it pops up every month.

KnightWhoSaysNi · 05-11-2003, 04:44 PM

I'm convinced now that Socrates = Sarfati too. A poster named 'Minnesota' (is he one of you?) came and said outright that Socrates is Sarfati. Soc became strangely quiet ever since.

FiveSolas came, edited Minnesota's comments, and warned him with this:

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Jayjay · 05-11-2003, 04:50 PM

Surely some of you registered at TheologyWeb long before Socrates' secret identity was revealed... do you remember by any chance whether that rule was in place back then, or did they put it there just to accommodate him?

EDIT: In any case, I managed to see Minnesota's original, and the revelation of Socrates' identity wasn't all that was edited away... conveniently TheFiveSolas also removed all of his comments on the laughability of TJ's peer review, but managed to leave the Socrates quotations in the beginning of the post.

:boohoo:

Jimmy Higgins · 05-11-2003, 07:06 PM

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Surely some of you registered at TheologyWeb long before Socrates' secret identity was revealed... do you remember by any chance whether that rule was in place back then, or did they put it there just to accommodate him?

The issue really doesn't come up because I don't think anyone else is denying who they are.

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EDIT: In any case, I managed to see Minnesota's original, and the revelation of Socrates' identity wasn't all that was edited away... conveniently TheFiveSolas also removed all of his comments on the laughability of TJ's peer review, but managed to leave the Socrates quotations in the beginning of the post.

I publicly noted that. They do that a bunch. When I moderate, if there is a bad word, I'll zap the word and replace it. They take the whole thing out. I hate that because it is misrepresenting what the poster said.

Kevbo · 05-11-2003, 07:17 PM

'nuff said

WinAce · 05-11-2003, 07:25 PM

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"Ironically, a common false charge against the Australian-founded Answers in Genesis is that it is �American based�, yet the Australian Skeptics [sic] have adopted the American spelling, although the usual Australian spelling is �sceptic�."
- Sarfati, AnswersInGenesis

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"... and this is the Australian spelling too. But it's notable that ORGANIZED Skepticism spells it with a K, like the Yanx. It's ironic because they are forever spruiking on about how YEC is a "right wing American fundamentalist" invention, yet they are the ones who adopt an American spelling -- because they are outgrowths of American skeptic/humanist groups"
- Socrates, TheologyWeb

Yet another coincidence?

Minnesota · 05-11-2003, 08:35 PM

Yeah, I got my hands slapped on that one. No big deal, but I bridle when I see Socs referring to himself (Sarfati) in the third person.
I've been temporarily assigned to purgatory until I post an E-mail to the administration promising I'll never do it again. When the ban is lifted I'll repost my comment with the references to Sarfati deleted.

05-11-2003, 08:35 PM	#90
Minnesota Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 172	The Socrates/Sarfati Thing Yeah, I got my hands slapped on that one. No big deal, but I bridle when I see Socs referring to himself (Sarfati) in the third person. I've been temporarily assigned to purgatory until I post an E-mail to the administration promising I'll never do it again. When the ban is lifted I'll repost my comment with the references to Sarfati deleted.

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05-11-2003, 09:10 AM	#83
Kevbo Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 212	You're right, that isn't conclusive evidence at all. I'm absolutely convinced that Socrates is Sarfati, though, and that dave--f is either a huge fan of AiG or someone who works there.

05-11-2003, 04:50 PM	#86
Jayjay Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 6,261	Surely some of you registered at TheologyWeb long before Socrates' secret identity was revealed... do you remember by any chance whether that rule was in place back then, or did they put it there just to accommodate him? EDIT: In any case, I managed to see Minnesota's original, and the revelation of Socrates' identity wasn't all that was edited away... conveniently TheFiveSolas also removed all of his comments on the laughability of TJ's peer review, but managed to leave the Socrates quotations in the beginning of the post. :boohoo:

05-11-2003, 07:17 PM	#88
Kevbo Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 212	'nuff said

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