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Old 05-06-2003, 01:43 PM   #21
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surely you would applaud a guy who got this news out by whatever means he had to employ. guess it depends who's ox gets gored.
So if someone enters your place of work or your home while you are away, and stumbles across something that might be of interest too someone else that would be OK as long as it was only your ox getting gored?
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Old 05-06-2003, 01:49 PM   #22
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I wonder how he might feel if tax payers in HIS community decided to enter his home while he was away and photographed the contents of his home so we can see how he is spending the tax dollars that go into his pay check! With the reasoning this man uses there is no place safe from the peering of eyes of Big Brother.
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I think tax payers should enter his home and look around. His attitude toward the use of his authority needs to be scrutinized and what better way than rumaging through his house. (sarcasm)
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Old 05-06-2003, 02:56 PM   #23
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but ill assume fatherphil was just joking, no one would really say that.
Didn't you get the memo? Bush isn't a dictator, and Ashcroft didn't kill anyone to get his current position. In the US you have these things called "elections" where citizens elect the people who run the country. I know this because I'm always hearing how the US wants to export this all over the world, as if we hadn't heard about democracy before.

People actually voted for the government of the US. Another election just before the recent war in Iraq confirmed that the republican party has fairly significant support from US citizens.

Of course there are people who think that was perfectly reasonable. I thought everybody knew that. After all, what if there had been a terrorist plot or inappropriate criticism of a wartime president who isn't a democrat in amongst those projects?
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In the US you have these things called "elections" where citizens elect the people who run the country
True but besides the point. Remember. the popular vote didn't put Bush into office. And, just because we are a "democracy"doens't mean that we are somehow protected from abuses of poplitical power. Hitler was democratically elected into power and then went about eliminating opposition within his own government and within his own country (establishing certain attitudes with "proper citizenship" much like the intellectual climate that exists in this country currently), curtaling german "rights" in the name of "their own protection" and consolidating more and more power into his own hands. (Sorry about the nazi reference but it is valid.)

Is this same situation taking place today? Are those of us around the country who oppose the Patriot Act, the war in Iraq, the Bush administrations rhetoric and the stifling environment surrounding those who decide to adopt a heterodox opinion mistaken? Paranoid? Conspiracy theorists? Removed from reality? No, i don't think so.

The slightest abuse of power, especially one carried out under the inspiration of personal opinion needs to be responded to with as much attention as possible. No violation like this should be tolerated. Police like politicions are public servants and should be accountable to the public for the wrongdoings they commit with the authority we give them (why we entrust other people with such authority is an entirely different conversation).

Fuck the cop. His opinions are his opinions and he needs to learn to keep his opinions in check while in uniform. Who cares what he does on his own time but when on the clock his ass is accounable for what he does. dig it.
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Didn't you get the memo? Bush isn't a dictator, and Ashcroft didn't kill anyone to get his current position. In the US you have these things called "elections" where citizens elect the people who run the country. I know this because I'm always hearing how the US wants to export this all over the world, as if we hadn't heard about democracy before.

People actually voted for the government of the US. Another election just before the recent war in Iraq confirmed that the republican party has fairly significant support from US citizens.

Of course there are people who think that was perfectly reasonable. I thought everybody knew that. After all, what if there had been a terrorist plot or inappropriate criticism of a wartime president who isn't a democrat in amongst those projects?
That may very well be the the case, but we all know that Bush was not elected president, he was appointed by the supreme court instead.
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please ignore the previous posts lack of correct grammer. thank you.
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There has all ways been those that would readily defend "the rights of cops to beat a confesstion from a suspect". This rational (and abuse of police authority is what's in question) has always shocked me. The overall complacency (excuse my spelling I'm tired) towards civil rights encroachments is unnerving.

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Rush Limbaugh's take. Yah, who cares. But it has pictures.

EXLUSIVE PHOTOS or somesuch.

I've seen that door. Shut up. My schools in the news. I'll rake it for very dime its worth.
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why are you invoking a privacy issue on things hung on a public wall? again, if the teacher encouraged the hanging of religious items like the ten comandments you'd be infavor of it being exposed. i've tried to sit in on classes and you'd be amazed at the hoops the school administration want to put a person through just for the honor. plus it was an evil cop from the police state of america that did it. wow, this is pretty bad.
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watch the amazing phil slip and slide out of the way of any issue.
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