Jeremy Pallant

According to legend, Aesculapius, son of the god Apollo and his mortal lover, Coronis, could raise the dead, and was killed by Zeus for doing so, and thus violating the natural order of things.

Defiant Heretic

And when God sacrifices his only son, it's basically Jesus sacrificing himself to himself. (to save the humans he created himself from the hell he created himself)

Steven Carr

Christians tell us there were lots of resurrections in that time period http://www.christian-thinktank.com/oddrise.html

There has even been OT resurrections
'The only two resurrections of the dead in the OT are both to the women patrons of Elisha and Elihjah '

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/fem04a.html

Mageth

Um Mageth. Jesus and God are the same person. When God ressurects Jesus, its basically Jesus ressurecting himself.

You'd best check your faith. The Bible never claims that Jesus raised himself from the dead. To the contrary, from the bible:

Romans 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

This verse doesn't say God raised himself from the dead. Your faith requires you to believe that God raised Jesus from the dead, not that Jesus raised himself from the dead.

And no, i don't know everything about the Bible. I'm Jewish and grew up with the Torah primarily. I'm new to Messianic Judaism and have a lot more studying of the Bible to do. I'm not one of those people who can just type up a verse from the Bible on cue.

Well, I assume you know how to use Google. It's not that hard to check your facts before you make a post.

Magus55

Mageth, I'm not saying it says in the Bible Jesus raised himself. But since Jesus IS God, as it says and implies numerous times in the Bible. He is ressurecting himself in that Jesus Christ and God the Father are the same person.

Treacle Worshipper

Aren't Enoch, Elijah & Elisha mentioned in the Torah? I know they're OT prophets, one would presume that you had heard of them.
TW

Fr.Andrew

(Fr Andrew): I wonder why St Paul didn't seem to be aware of that?

Butters

O.K. If Jesus IS God and he raised HIMSELF. Then that means that he had HIMSELF cruxified to appease HIMSELF. Right?

Magus55

No, God came to earth in the flesh to preach the Gospel and the way to eternal life to people and to die on the cross in order to pay for our sins. Did God know he would be crucified for his ministry? Yes. Did God crucify himself? No, humans did by their own free will. Jesus died on the cross because only the perfect sacrifice could wipe away the sins of humans. Since no Human on earth's blood is perfect enough to wash away sins. God came to earth to do it because He was perfect enough.

Had God not come to earth to pay for our sins, we would all be headed for Hell with no hope whatsoever, because by God's own nature of righteousness, he HAS to punish those who sin, and nothing we do can ever bring us up the standards of God's holiness. Thats what Jesus was for. By being in the flesh he lowered himself to God and could walk among sinners. By being God, he was perfectly Holy and his flesh and blood could pay for our sins.

Mageth

Mageth, I'm not saying it says in the Bible Jesus raised himself. But since Jesus IS God, as it says and implies numerous times in the Bible. He is ressurecting himself in that Jesus Christ and God the Father are the same person.

Read your bible. The dang thing clearly makes a distinction between God the Father and Jesus the Son. And add in the Holy Spirit to make what's referred to as "God in three persons", the Trinity.

Are you a Trinitarian or a monotheist? On this thread you're sounding more monotheistic. If you're not a monotheist, you need to rework your language and concepts.