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Old 02-08-2003, 09:06 AM   #221
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One cannot reliably predict how one would respond to an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, omniscient being because there is no basis in reality from which to draw inferences.
Abalone. Your theories are so simplistic and short sighted, they are barely worthy of a response.

How about if he thought homosexuality was wrong and walked around whacking male homosexuals over the head whenever they thought of having anal sex? Would that be OK?

What if he wanted to close all abortion clinics and porn shops, and refused to let single people have sex? Would that be OK?

How about if he just killed future pedophiles at birth so he didn't have to watch them every minute? Oh wait. I know. He could just prevent anyone from having a thought he didn't approve of. How's that?

How about if he opened the earth and swallowed 250 people who had seen miracles and still pined for graves in Egypt?

How could he physically intervene and still be omnipresent at all times? Would he have 6 billion hands or something? Ah yes, the "Billion-handed God Allowing Limited Free Will Theory."

Do tell us how this omnipotent God, as YOU envision one, would operate.

Sorry bub, but the only rational alternatives are allowing free will or making robots. We are reassured of this fact each time we read one of the goofy, contradictory theories skeptics propose when forced to think about their beliefs. We await yours.

You accuse him of too much violence, against what he calls evil, one day and fault him for it the next.


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Old 02-08-2003, 09:14 AM   #222
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It really got ridiculous, she could not even have a conversation with another believer without bitching about her parent...
There you go.

In Further Along the Road less Traveled M. Scott Peck remarked about how many atheists walked out of his office seeking or believing in God, and how many "pshychotic" Christians left in doubt. It's called "mental health" and it works both ways.

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helen,

do you have or intend to have children, and if so what are you and your husband going to do about religion?

Please note, this is a sincere question and not a personal attack. I am just wondering what your perspective is on this question.
I wouldn't have assumed it was a personal attack, fwiw...

We have two:



My husband doesn't come to church; he lets me take the children with me.

They haven't strongly objected to going - I think they quite like it, so far. Or at least, there's enough they like that they haven't complained strongly about it.

Don't ask me what I'd do if my husband didn't want them to go or if they didn't want to go - I don't know because it hasn't come up.

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I have a friend who is an atheist and basically every christian is her parent
After she alienated everyone around her I finally told her shit happens, suck it up, seek counseling, and move on!

It is working, she is in psychotherapy for her disturbing years as a child and feels much stronger.
It really got ridiculous, she could not even have a conversation with another believer without bitching about her parent...
Amie, I hate to disappoint you, but I can't speak about it in the real world. I would be fired from my job and no one would speak to me. The IIDB is the only place I can rant and get angry and bitch about my mom. (You should really watch your language.) You are the xian, right? I rarely even mention my mom anymore. Sorry I couldn't live up to the atheist you knew. In real life I have SUCKED it up and moved on. I have not alienated my best friends or anyone else in real life. I'm sad that my brothers wife in Canada won't allow him to speak to me because she is afraid I might bring up our childhood. I didn't tell her, he did. I'm his sister, not his parent.

The Visiting Nurse Association has clergy for the terminally ill. I admire them so much for how they help believers. Rev Joshua was hospice clergy for awhile, I have nothing but respect for him.

My mother is not a diagnosed psychotic, she just behaves like one. When I'm able to have a truce with her (No talking about religion) we get along quite well. Sometimes it lasts for a couple of months.
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It was the Chopin...I have a case of Nocturnes that will improve the disposition of just about anyone.
I don't know about 'anyone' but you're right about me and Chopin

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(You should really watch your language.) You are the xian, right?
I'll say whatever I damn well please. Atheists dont have the monopoly on language...
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I work where there are about 80% atheists. Nobody rants about anything, or has a desire to. There's no problem at all. Why do you need to rant on your job anyway? Amie's example applies to you because whether you rant on the job or not, you still have the same irrational feelings toward Christians in general.

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Let me guess. The number of hard-core atheists who had a "psychotic Christian" parent is what? 90% in the U.S?
Then my husband is in the 10%

Feel free to try to figure out why he's not a Christian. Oh, I know...my bad example, probably!

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It was the Chopin...I have a case of Nocturnes that will improve the disposition of just about anyone.

Sabine's hemlock should shake her out of it.

hemlock as the evergreen or the poison?
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I'll say whatever I damn well please. Atheists dont have the monopoly on language...
Oooh you go right ahead sweetie. It's charming.
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