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Old 05-19-2003, 08:27 PM   #731
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Nothin' doin'. If we can't agree on your premise, and you aren't willing to defend that premise, further discussion is a waste of time. We might as well try to build a house from the roof down.
This is your rationalization for your fear - so be it.

I know it takes you out of your comfort zone to actually have to identify your position.

Now for all to see you have admitted that your view here is as an agitator and nothing more.

Here again (fourth time) are the questions which have so frightened you. If you decide to try and save face by sucking it up and actually answering a straightforward question, just go to the last line.

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Is evasiveness how you intend to support your position?

In what way is "homosexuality occurs throughout the animal kingdom" and "homosexuality does not violate rights" intellectually bankrupt?

That leaves the question of rights. Unless you think some other criteria is more valid, in which case perhaps you could illuminate us? Exactly what is it that supecedes our rights and responsibilities? What is it that you base your opinion on?

So because it's normal, and because it violates no one's rights, there really is no reason to talk about this any more. Unless you actually HAVE a reason? Do you intend to actually offer any support for your position at all?

Do you claim homosexuality is deviant? Why?
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Old 05-19-2003, 08:33 PM   #732
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This is your rationalization for your fear - so be it.
Yeah? What's your rationalization for failing to defend your <deleted by The Other Michael> premise?

yguy, you and the others need to be more careful about your modifiers if you want to continue this discussion.

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Old 05-19-2003, 08:46 PM   #733
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A supposed law review from the "university" founded by the king nut job himself:
Nearly 370 years after that prophecy was uttered, a dedicated servant of God, Dr. M.G. "Pat" Robertson, founded the Christian Broadcasting Network -- which is now the world's largest Christian network. Soon after, in 1978, Robertson founded Regent University, a university that would train Christian leaders to help bring real hope and change to our world. Regent rapidly developed into a one-of-a-kind university, exclusively offering Christian graduate-level programs.

Are there three or four U.S. Supreme Court justices who graduated from Regent?
No but...
  1. Harvard and Yale were founded by puritan Calvinists and
  2. Rutgers by members of the Dutch Reform Church.
  3. Brown by Baptists.
  4. Dartmouth by a Congregational preacher named of Eleazar Wheelock.
  5. Columbia by Anglicans.
  6. Notre Dame, Loyola, Holy Cross, Boston College are all Catholic Universities.
The authors and credentials of a few of the authors that contributed articles.
  • Steve Baldwin, a graduate of Pepperdine University, was elected to the California State Assembly in 1994, where he chaired the Assembly Education Committee and fought the homosexual community’s efforts to insert pro-gay curriculum into California’s public schools.
  • Professor Dean Byrd is a clinical professor at the University of Utah where he has provided clinical supervision in the Department of Psychiatry and teaches in the Department of Family and Consumer Studies. He is President of the Thrasher Research Fund and Vice-President of NARTH, the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.
  • Ty Clevenger, a graduate of Stanford Law School, is currently serving as a clerk to Judge Morris S. Arnold of the U.S. Court of Appeals, 8th Circuit.
  • Ben Kaufman, a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at The University of California School of Medicine with a clinical practice of psychiatry and psychoanalysis, is a founding officer of NARTH, National Association for the Research and Therapy on Homosexuality and now serves as Chairman of The Board of NARTH.
  • Lynn Marie Kohm is the John Brown McCarty Professor of Family Law, Regent University School of Law.
  • Mark D. Kilgus is a board certified child and adolescent psychiatrist who presently serves as the Medical Director of Northpointe Behavioral Healthcare Systems in Michigan.
  • Stony Olsen is a recent graduate of J. Reuben Clark School of Law at Brigham Young University.
  • George Rekers, a Professor of Neuropsychiatry and Behavioral Science at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine, is author of The Handbook of Child and Adolescent Sexual Problems. He was the recipient of the 2000 Sigmund Freud Award for Pioneering Research.
  • Dr. Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media Instruction, has served as consultant to three U.S. Department of Justice administrations, The U.S. Department of Education, and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
The facts are extensively documented and well footnoted. The mystery is why secular universities shy away from any controversy conserning homosexuality. Then I remember the source of political correctness. That's what happens when politics meets sociology.
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Yeah? What's your rationalization for failing to defend your <edited by moderator> premise?
...it's not rational to defend one's premises to <edited by moderator)...
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Old 05-19-2003, 08:52 PM   #735
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...it's not rational to defend one's premises to <the usual>...
Nowhere doesn't think I'm an <edited for consistency>, he thinks I'm a coward. I rather believe he is the pot calling the kettle black.
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OK, I'm pulling the plug, and I'm very much of the mind that this thread is unlikely to be reopened.

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